How to get that fuzz sound

sylnau · Post by **sylnau** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:29 pm

Hey, I realy enjoy the fuzz sound (maybe OD not sure) on Metropolitan Glide by Tom Waits.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZENCI8DhiHM[/youtube]

Which fuzz/od would you use to get that sound at 1:32?

Would you think Mid-Fi Demo Tape Fuzz would be great for that sound?

Edit: fix video.

univalve · Post by **univalve** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:47 pm

Tape fuzz- no
It has more compression.
MkI but a brighter One with attack Down gets a similar Sound... (but i have my amps setup quite dark too)

Wait for dev :thumb:

sonidero · Post by **sonidero** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:50 pm

Old loud amp??? I don't really think Tom used many pedals (I'm just going off what I've read, not a fan)... Sounds like an old cranked SS amp... Crappy Peavey maybe??? Kinda sounds Mississippi Deltaish and they love Peaveys for that sound...

coldbrightsunlight · Post by **coldbrightsunlight** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:55 pm

I'd guess the album sound is a small amp cranked, I agree with univalve that a tonebender-style fuzz with the gain down might get a similar tone. Or a fuzz face with the gain reaally low as well.

sylnau · Post by **sylnau** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:03 pm

Thanks, MKI, that's possible... I'll wait for Dev for some suggestion.
The Skinpimp MKI look interesting, but is there some less expensive option?

sonidero · Post by **sonidero** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:09 pm

Does it always have to be a pedal and not some sort of Guitar / Amp / Mic / Room / Player combo... People like Tom who have been recording forever usually keep it real simple in the studio...

sylnau · Post by **sylnau** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:17 pm

sonidero wrote:Does it always have to be a pedal and not some sort of Guitar / Amp / Mic / Room / Player combo... People like Tom who have been recording forever usually keep it real simple in the studio...

That might just be an amp.. but I'm looking for a pedal that reproduce that sound.

This is Mark Ribot playing on this recording.

sonidero · Post by **sonidero** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:22 pm

Your not talking about the Turntable sound right??? Just the Guitar sound??? Stick your amp in the bathroom and experiment with mic placement... I know pedals can approximate a sound but most of the time it's easier then you think... Do you read Tape Op??? They have good articles online about recording... Not fighting here; I just don't always think XXX pedal is the answer... I know that's blasphemy on an Effect Love Forum but it's straight up grown folk talkin...

sonidero · Post by **sonidero** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:26 pm

That song has...

"Metropolitan Glide" – 4:13

Larry Taylor - Bass
Harry Cody - Guitar
Brain - Percussion
Casey Waits - Turntables
Tom Waits - Vocal, Guitar

Just sayin... I know Mark Ribot plays on some but this is Tom and Harry...

sylnau · Post by **sylnau** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:33 pm

sonidero wrote:Your not talking about the Turntable sound right??? Just the Guitar sound??? Stick your amp in the bathroom and experiment with mic placement... I know pedals can approximate a sound but most of the time it's easier then you think... Do you read Tape Op??? They have good articles online about recording... Not fighting here; I just don't always think XXX pedal is the answer... I know that's blasphemy on an Effect Love Forum but it's straight up grown folk talkin...

The problem is that I live in a small 2 1/2 appartment. I can't play loud.
You are true, I'm pretty sure I can get those sound out of my amp... but not until I purchase a house.

Your right, it's not Marc Ribot, it's Cody and Waits on guitar (my mistake).

Chankgeez · Post by **Chankgeez** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:36 pm

sonidero wrote: I just don't always think XXX pedal is the answer... I know that's blasphemy on an Effect Love Forum but it's straight up grown folk talkin...

This is true, especially with someone experimental like Tom Waits.

I once e-mailed Joe Gore to ask him how he got a certain sound on a Tom Waits record.

His answer? Hollowbody guitar, almost any dirt pedal, small cranked amp, get up real close.

sonidero · Post by **sonidero** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:42 pm

You should stalk your neighbors till you know their every move; then you would know when no ones home and crank it up... I'm in the same position but I went and met my neighbors and told them "I am LOUD if you have a problem beat on the wall"... Now they text me and say what you were just playin sounded good, play it again... Everyone in a metro area has to deal with that... Stick your amp in a closet or the refrigerator or under your bed... It's all good...

sylnau · Post by **sylnau** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:56 pm

The Mad Owl · Post by **The Mad Owl** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:20 pm

i suggest:

devi ever - electric brown or karaoke party

it def sounds like a more fuzz-type overdrive.

you might even be able to get a sound like this with a boost pedal (to being really literal with the "cranked amp" sound without playing loud)...

if you already have a distortion pedal... roll the gain down to zero and dime the volume control.

sylnau · Post by **sylnau** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:34 pm

I'm getting close with my Hydra Overdrive (Liquid Gain) but it's more polite.

I like the idea of a Tonebender MkI.

And what about the Thorn's Peaker?

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