The False Grail?
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it was less of a grail than something i borrowed because i had no pedals at the time, but i played through an op-amp Muff and absolutely hated it. no bottom end, and impossible to adjust to anything other than total screaming oblivion.
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Achtane wrote:The Supa-Chan looked a lot cooler than it sounded, plus all that drama killed Mellowtone for me.
Didn't like the Wolf Computer either, except in a feedback loop...even when it's doing sub-octave wackiness or farting, I still can't get into the general fuzz toan.
Out of the SM/TP/VFM/DB/Ruiner I haven't yet found anything that I like enough on bass to keep. I love the craziness of Devi's pedals, just gotta find the right combo of circuits. People keep saying the SM is super bassy, I don't get it...and the DB, like, kills all of yr highs. There's gotta be a sweet in-between.
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dubkitty wrote:it was less of a grail than something i borrowed because i had no pedals at the time, but i played through an op-amp Muff and absolutely hated it. no bottom end, and impossible to adjust to anything other than total screaming oblivion.
The one I had did have bottom in spades. The screech to it could never be dialed out and it didn't clean up at all. It wasn't a bad sound at all but I wasn't something that jibed with my playing. Or my amp at the time, a silverface Fender -- adds up to lots of bass and lots of mid scoop. It's probably no mistake that a lot of doom guys who like Muffs also like amps with a Baxandall type eq that doesn't have the mid scoop of most Fender, Marshall, and Vox tone stacks.
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sonidero wrote:I don't elevate pedals to Grail Status in my own mind... I know what sounds I like and what NOT to buy either by a review, a demo, or even just esthetics... No pedal has ever disappointed me because they're all good for something or some one and I don't try to make them do something that they weren't invented to do or force them into MY way of playing or thinking... They are a utility and should be used as such...
In my case I wanted an amazing Muff for bass and the Pharaoh was drooled over when it first came out. Most of the forums touted it as a superior option. I didn't want it to sound like a Fuzzface, Tonebender or a Metal Zone, just a solid muff that retained my lows. I play loud and don't mind a bit of hiss or extra noise, but the noise level was a bit too much for me. Plus I couldn't stand anywhere near my amp without immediate feedback. The overall tone of the pedal is great, and I wouldn't discourage anyone form buying one. I'm just saying it didn't work for me. I've since flipped the Pharaoh and tried a couple of other muffs and a TAFM but settled on a Baby Thundaa for my main fuzz sound. Gear forums can set off a hype storm and it can be easy to get caught up in the fervor.
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Gone Fission wrote:dubkitty wrote:it was less of a grail than something i borrowed because i had no pedals at the time, but i played through an op-amp Muff and absolutely hated it. no bottom end, and impossible to adjust to anything other than total screaming oblivion.
The one I had did have bottom in spades. The screech to it could never be dialed out and it didn't clean up at all. It wasn't a bad sound at all but I wasn't something that jibed with my playing. Or my amp at the time, a silverface Fender -- adds up to lots of bass and lots of mid scoop. It's probably no mistake that a lot of doom guys who like Muffs also like amps with a Baxandall type eq that doesn't have the mid scoop of most Fender, Marshall, and Vox tone stacks.
the fact that i was playing through a Peavey combo amp that predated the band (i.e. pre-1982) and lived up to the bad rep Peaveys had then probably didn't help, either.
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This is another unpopular opinion for sure but I didn't dig the Fuck OD as much as I thought I would. Perhaps it has something to do with me/my gear
...But the one that takes the cake was Skullservants Wow and Flutter. I wanted one forever like before I joined this website I saw a youtube demo, then it came and it wasn't all that usable as far as the weirdness goes, not to mention huge.
...But the one that takes the cake was Skullservants Wow and Flutter. I wanted one forever like before I joined this website I saw a youtube demo, then it came and it wasn't all that usable as far as the weirdness goes, not to mention huge.
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Yep. The Clarinot does the whole tape warble thing so much better
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every single marshall amp ive ever tried. LOVE the tone of jcm 800s boosted ready to explode on record but ill be damned if I cant get that tone in room.

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whiskey_face wrote:every single marshall amp ive ever tried. LOVE the tone of jcm 800s boosted ready to explode on record but ill be damned if I cant get that tone in room.
I've only tried a 900, but yeah. But I may have been equalizing it poorly, so...
+1 on the wolf computer too, I couldn't get it to sound like any of the demos I heard.
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Devi Ever Hyperion. I've owned three of them, and I keep telling myself, "yeah, they sound pretty neat, it'll be great." But they never work with my pre-amp or my playing style. Only way I enjoyed playing it was with the texture way way down, and that was pretty much a 33/SodaMight/Silver crank sound.
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This brings me back to my TB days a few years ago, but my entry here is the BJFE Blueberry. People have been freaking out about that pedal for a good 6 or 7 years now over on TB, basically claiming that it's THE holy grail bass overdrive of all time. Well I did a partial trade for one involving an original Digitech Bass Whammy, and I was supremely underwhelmed. It was just like, really? THIS is what all the fuss is over? It was just so damned boring. So I turned around and traded it straight up for an Empress Superdelay. 
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PumpkinPieces wrote:Devi Ever Hyperion. I've owned three of them, and I keep telling myself, "yeah, they sound pretty neat, it'll be great." But they never work with my pre-amp or my playing style. Only way I enjoyed playing it was with the texture way way down, and that was pretty much a 33/SodaMight/Silver crank sound.
This...sorta. But everytime I want to sell it, I plug in and change my mind. I never move the texture knob past 9 o'clock. But it's great.
I had a univibe tape echo that I loved but I didn't like having it always running or having to completely take it out of the chain. It was just a pain, so I sold it.
Death by Audio pedal seem so promising to what i want in my sound. The fuzz gun, overdriver, and fuzz war didn't do anything for me. The soundwave breakdown was fucking awesome but all the useable sounds I found were in the harmonic transformer.
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Not quite a GRAIL, but a story.
So I tried the Fix'd Fuzz in as guitar shop in New York, and bought it cuz it's rad (and i still have it).
The guy at the store was like "DOOD, these guy make the ultimate russian/magic/6 knob big muff, which I use in all my world tours and shit. But we're out of stock."
So I was all like "cool!
"
Flew back to Australia. I ordered the Musket from Blackout, super excited to be able to replace my fancy unreliable russians.
Finally! it arrived- and it was ok.
It's since been flipped.
So I tried the Fix'd Fuzz in as guitar shop in New York, and bought it cuz it's rad (and i still have it).
The guy at the store was like "DOOD, these guy make the ultimate russian/magic/6 knob big muff, which I use in all my world tours and shit. But we're out of stock."
So I was all like "cool!
"Flew back to Australia. I ordered the Musket from Blackout, super excited to be able to replace my fancy unreliable russians.
Finally! it arrived- and it was ok.
It's since been flipped.
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