Acetone FM2 is a superfuzz variant. Bee Baa circuit is totally different. They just have footswitches that choose the normal tone or a mid scooped one....decomposing wrote:ok so between the bee baa and fz-1s, which would you pick as a fuzz?Uncle Grandfather wrote:you know i love the fz-1s, but having a stomp switch to toggle between the two fuzz tones is reaallllly nice. i'm diggin that about the beebaa. the ace tone fm-2 also uses one stomp for between the fuzz tones. i wonder if there's a fz-1s clone with set up as such? that would be the tits.
the guy at ace tone went on to start roland. i think the ace tone fm-2 could be considered the design the beebaa was based on. and the ace tone is more of an octave fuzz to compete with the superfuzz....i'm really starting to gas on the ace tone. i like octave pedals.
and this is if the fz-1s has the same fotswitches like the bee baa to control fuzz tones.
almost ready to be done with this research. but always another door opens...
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BeeBaa's aren't buzzy really, they're like a muff with the superfuzz tone switch. Sustain basically starts where a muff ends then goes into singing violin overload. See any Boris solo, that Triangle Muff kinda vibe.
That said, until I got my Matamp, I ran the sustain knob at zero on my BeeBaa on the non-scooped setting and that was my gnarly rhythm tone. Which sounded remarkably similar to the amp. That toothy ormat preamp sound that the Pharoah does so well.
A buzzaround clone would totally cover the ground between buzzing vintage fuzz and singing muff territory.
Jordon Bosstone is nicely buzzy... anything with a voltage starve?
That said, until I got my Matamp, I ran the sustain knob at zero on my BeeBaa on the non-scooped setting and that was my gnarly rhythm tone. Which sounded remarkably similar to the amp. That toothy ormat preamp sound that the Pharoah does so well.
A buzzaround clone would totally cover the ground between buzzing vintage fuzz and singing muff territory.
Jordon Bosstone is nicely buzzy... anything with a voltage starve?
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I was thinking the same thing. Muffs and Maestro FZ-1-style fuzz boxes are very different creatures, but a Buzzaround might be a good compromise. There are a couple up for sale here, I think. Another cheap option might be a Pep Fuzz clone. At low gain the Pep Fuzz gives a very gated buzzy fuzz, but when you open it up there's way more sustain. A WEM Project V fuzz like the Ghost Effects Warmjet would also do the job (the twin bias knobs mean you can get really gated or Muff-like sustain) but they're a little more expensive.dub wrote:A buzzaround clone would totally cover the ground between buzzing vintage fuzz and singing muff territory.
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Thanks for clearing that up. I'm just learning about ace tone these last few days, nice to get some good info. the demo's only give a suggestion. If the fm-2 sounds anywhere near my shin-ei fy-6 in person, then I want oneLaoWiz wrote:Acetone FM2 is a superfuzz variant. Bee Baa circuit is totally different. They just have footswitches that choose the normal tone or a mid scooped one....decomposing wrote:ok so between the bee baa and fz-1s, which would you pick as a fuzz?Uncle Grandfather wrote:you know i love the fz-1s, but having a stomp switch to toggle between the two fuzz tones is reaallllly nice. i'm diggin that about the beebaa. the ace tone fm-2 also uses one stomp for between the fuzz tones. i wonder if there's a fz-1s clone with set up as such? that would be the tits.
the guy at ace tone went on to start roland. i think the ace tone fm-2 could be considered the design the beebaa was based on. and the ace tone is more of an octave fuzz to compete with the superfuzz....i'm really starting to gas on the ace tone. i like octave pedals.
and this is if the fz-1s has the same fotswitches like the bee baa to control fuzz tones.
almost ready to be done with this research. but always another door opens...
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decomposing wrote:ok so between the bee baa and fz-1s, which would you pick as a fuzz?Uncle Grandfather wrote:you know i love the fz-1s, but having a stomp switch to toggle between the two fuzz tones is reaallllly nice. i'm diggin that about the beebaa. the ace tone fm-2 also uses one stomp for between the fuzz tones. i wonder if there's a fz-1s clone with set up as such? that would be the tits.
the guy at ace tone went on to start roland. i think the ace tone fm-2 could be considered the design the beebaa was based on. and the ace tone is more of an octave fuzz to compete with the superfuzz....i'm really starting to gas on the ace tone. i like octave pedals.
and this is if the fz-1s has the same fotswitches like the bee baa to control fuzz tones.
almost ready to be done with this research. but always another door opens...
from what we've been through, the fz-1s is probably perfect.
i'm on the hunt for an fm-2 now thanks to you
now......not sure why i didn't think of this earlier, but you might dig the shin-ei fy-2. not a lot of variety to its tone but its pretty fuckin awesome. i wouldn't say its more what you're looking for than the fz-1s, but the more you know
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LaoWiz can build you an FM-2!Uncle Grandfather wrote:from what we've been through, the fz-1s is probably perfect.
i'm on the hunt for an fm-2 now thanks to you![]()
now......not sure why i didn't think of this earlier, but you might dig the shin-ei fy-2. not a lot of variety to its tone but its pretty fuckin awesome. i wouldn't say its more what you're looking for than the fz-1s, but the more you know![]()
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One here for $300: http://www.electrotonemusic.com/used/Uncle Grandfather wrote:i'm on the hunt for an fm-2 now thanks to you![]()
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I've never heard his builds, but from what i've seen his casework looks sodecomposing wrote: LaoWiz can build you an FM-2!![]()
I'm trying to decide what he should build me![]()
But...I've got a penchant for original vintage gear. I also like to play around with the gear first if possible, and a good friend who's a vintage gear dealer that almost always comes through saving me monies.
you look pretty set.
decomposing wrote:MUST TRY ALL DEH FUZZ!
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Thanks for posting that.HorseyBoy wrote:One here for $300: http://www.electrotonemusic.com/used/Uncle Grandfather wrote:i'm on the hunt for an fm-2 now thanks to you![]()
I saw that one yesterday or thereabouts and it's already sold. there are a couple on ebay, one's in pretty poor shape, the other looks minty but more than I want to pay.
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Makes the FY2 sound like a mute kitten cumming into a pillow.
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Ian's a great guy to deal with and makes fantastic fuzz. Couldn't recommend him highly enough.Uncle Grandfather wrote:I believe you own a Ghost Effect warmjet? how was the experience purchasing from him and your thoughts on his work? man i would like to get ahold of an original.
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[quote="futuresailors"]Makes the FY2 sound like a mute kitten cumming into a pillow.
yeah is goody from demos i've hear. not really a vintage buzz fuzz sound though, in there? look like alot of fun regardless.
yeah is goody from demos i've hear. not really a vintage buzz fuzz sound though, in there? look like alot of fun regardless.
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Thanks. Pics i've seen of his PTP work is just lovely.HorseyBoy wrote:Ian's a great guy to deal with and makes fantastic fuzz. Couldn't recommend him highly enough.Uncle Grandfather wrote:I believe you own a Ghost Effect warmjet? how was the experience purchasing from him and your thoughts on his work? man i would like to get ahold of an original.
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He also posts here off and on, you should totally shoot him a PM.
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crazy stuff man! if I didn't mod my old blue box so much I'd probably sell it for this.futuresailors wrote:Makes the FY2 sound like a mute kitten cumming into a pillow.
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