I need an amp that has better bass response

gunslinger_burrito · Post by **gunslinger_burrito** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:56 am

So I've been playing out of a Fender Hotrod Deville 410 for the past year and a half or so, but I keep on modifying my guitars to play tones with more bass. I tune pretty exclusively in drop tunings, and it handles those pretty well, but I just set up my baritone so that the lowest note is a bass D. Would it be an alright option to just get an extension cab for the 410, maybe a 115 or something? Or is there something that will do better that I can get for around the same value if I trade/sell the Deville? A head that will power a 412 and a 1 or 215 maybe? Thoughts?

backwardsvoyager · Post by **backwardsvoyager** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:13 am

I like the bass response from my Marshall DSL50, its not booteek or anything but it's been solid a solid as hell amp for me. Really warm cleans and takes fuzz like a champ.
There may be different things you can get locally that could be better (used market where I live is pretty dreadful) but it's worth considering, and would fit your budget. I always found the Fender Hotrods too trebly for my liking.

gunslinger_burrito · Post by **gunslinger_burrito** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 2:02 am

The HotRod sounds surprisingly chunky when dialed in right. But when I've played my baritone (which is tuned in fifths) through it, and I go to hit a lower note, it doesn't "boom" right.

rustywire · Post by **rustywire** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 2:19 am

Bassman or British derivative, cant recommend this enough.
Response and tone? Yes. Insane wattage? No.

Still sound massive.

Holy Schnikes · Post by **Holy Schnikes** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 2:29 am

KT88's.

Ben79 · Post by **Ben79** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 6:56 am

Bassman or British derivative, cant recommend this enough.

And maybe some G12h speakers.

rfurtkamp · Post by **rfurtkamp** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:54 am

Extension cab or something other than 4x10s would be my first stop.

MEC · Post by **MEC** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:17 am

Rob Fossil · Post by **Rob Fossil** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:24 am

MEC wrote:V4.

Beat me to it, I say V4 as well. A 2x15 cab is awesome with the V4, but a bitch to lug around.

skullservant · Post by **skullservant** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:23 am

I will say that the extension cab would be PROBABLY the cheapest option if you can find a 1x15 used if you are a fan of the tone of the Deville. 10's paired with a 15 always have sounded good for me not liking 10's by themselves at all, adds a nice bottom end which seems like it would be perfect for you. OR if you wanted something a little tighter in the low end, you could go for something like a 2x12 extension cab and load it with bass speakers.

cheesecats · Post by **cheesecats** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:00 am

i have a music man 75 head that has a bass channel with a deep switch--it can really crank out the bass tones. i use an old bassman closed-back cab loaded with evm 12l classics. you may be able to find the head on ebay or in music shops. it has a solid state preamp and tube power amp and is plenty loud. it holds its own with a 65 twin reissue i use on one side of a stereo pair that gives a nice frequency spectrum spread.

Bon Hoga · Post by **Bon Hoga** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:28 am

What you need, IMO, is a good ABY switch and a bass amp.

gunslinger_burrito · Post by **gunslinger_burrito** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:07 pm

Holy Schnikes wrote:KT88's.

Not knowing shit about the guts of amps....would a Deville take those? I'm assuming they'd help with the low end of the spectrum?

I know that 410 can be a common bass speaker setup, and I have a friend who used to play through a 410 and a 115 with his bass. So getting an extension would definitely be the cheapest option, but I just wonder about the actual amp generating the tones I probably will need. It does basically need to cover the lower end of the guitar range, AND the bass range, if need be.

theavondon · Post by **theavondon** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:50 pm

but like, V4 and a 2x15. Run far from open back cabs.

rfurtkamp · Post by **rfurtkamp** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:41 pm

4x10 on bass setups are (unless it's 1958) closed back cabs.

And even then are generally pretty bright IME.

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