Pedal order switcher with loopers/glitch/granular chicanery?



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Pedal order switcher with loopers/glitch/granular chicanery?

Postby Seance » Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:45 am

Does anybody have experience using a pedal order switcher with delay-line loopers
so that you can mangle the loop created by switching pedal order?

It seems like the options are sort of limited if you want a fade between when
switching pedal order. It looks like only Sound Sculpture Switchblade 8F does that.
http://www.soundsculpture.com/switchblade8f
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And the Decibel 11 Pedal Palette (out of production) looks like it can swap order
between different sets of pedals, but without any fades... but... potentially might
be cheaper than a Switchblade 8F, and require less programming, MIDI extras, etc.
http://decibel11.com/products_pedal_palette.aspx
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People have suggested passive A/B switchers, like from SaturnWorks, but
that seems less dynamic unless a person had a few of them, which might
raise the potential for issues with noise floor and ground loops(?).

Thoughts?
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Re: Pedal order switcher with loopers/glitch/granular chican

Postby whoismarykelly » Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:53 am

Since so many pedals in this genre smooth and smear the source you might not notice a huge difference with fades. A mechanical loop order switcher might give more of an effect and you could easily make one that fades between as well. Look at the Toneczar VFM for inspiration maybe?
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Re: Pedal order switcher with loopers/glitch/granular chican

Postby Seance » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:55 pm

I guess I was worried about audible pops when switching. But perhaps that isn't a concern? Depending?
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Re: Pedal order switcher with loopers/glitch/granular chican

Postby amnesiac305 » Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:32 am

I made a pedal switcher with just a 4PDT switch. It works very well with surprisingly minimal popping. It is interesting to hear the often dramatic differences when switching order.
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Re: Pedal order switcher with loopers/glitch/granular chican

Postby shikawkee » Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:15 am

Seance wrote:I guess I was worried about audible pops when switching. But perhaps that isn't a concern? Depending?


GigRig switchers are pop-less FWIW.
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Re: Pedal order switcher with loopers/glitch/granular chican

Postby cosmicevan » Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:42 pm

I use 2 ditto loopers with a flip flop in the middle. I record a loop on the first, then jam with the loop into the 2nd looper, then switch the order and clear out the first looper and repeat. I can build and tear down ideas pretty easily this way.
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Re: Pedal order switcher with loopers/glitch/granular chican

Postby Seance » Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:52 pm

Thanks for all the replies and suggestions.

There is more than one to flay a sardine. I'd like to hear about them all.
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