MechaGodzilla wrote:there's some good slide on the fleetwood mac stuff. like peter green/danny kirwan sorta era
dubkitty wrote:quite true. that was Kirwan, i think?
my favorite "slide player" probably doesn't count cos he's a lap steel player: David Lindley. i've been wanting one of those bakelite Rickenbacker steels since they were actually still affordable.
That was Jeremy Spencer. Although, Danny Kirwan probably did play some slide after Spencer left Fleetwood Mac. Jeremy Spencer was only good if you like to hear people imitating Elmore James. I, myself, would rather just listen to Elmore James. When listening to old Fleetwood Mac, I usually just skip the Jeremy Spencer tunes.
after 50 years+ of listening to epic guitar solos, almost everything i listen to now has no or minimal soloing. i used to think that improvisation and live performance was the test of a band; now i know that it's just as hard or harder to construct a tight track and fill it out effectively.
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dubkitty wrote:after 50 years+ of listening to epic guitar solos, almost everything i listen to now has no or minimal soloing. i used to think that improvisation and live performance was the test of a band; now i know that it's just as hard or harder to construct a tight track and fill it out effectively.
not controverial, just truth.
Personally the only solos i really like are the ones that add something to the song identity, and those are actually very few..
oh, i still listen to the Dead sometimes...it's just that nowadays i'm more interested in other things. also, the Dead are rather unique in that they collectively improvised contrapuntally and seldom played the exact same lines and voicings twice. by comparison, i'm totally bored with the rhythm-section-holds-three-chords-while-the-lead-player-goes-apeshit thing a la Skynyrd or Canned Heat.
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FIFTY YEARS OF SCARING THE CHILDREN 1970-2020--and i'm not done yet
Improvisation is a tricky thing. I am a fan of that whole Downtown NY scene but it's not all good. Painkiller were awesome but unfortunately after hearing them I realised how boring and conservative most heavy metal is, so that kind of soured my position in the local scene.
Colonel Claypool's Bucket of Bernie Brains were cool too, I think when you have a group of skilled improvisers you can get some great stuff. If you have a competent band and a soloist you tend to end up with boring stuff (hi, guitarist-led instrumental rock bands of the late 80's).
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dubkitty wrote:oh, i still listen to the Dead sometimes...it's just that nowadays i'm more interested in other things. also, the Dead are rather unique in that they collectively improvised contrapuntally and seldom played the exact same lines and voicings twice. by comparison, i'm totally bored with the rhythm-section-holds-three-chords-while-the-lead-player-goes-apeshit thing a la Skynyrd or Canned Heat.
I'm absolutely on board with the last bit. Much more interested in full band improv. Even if one person is taking the lead it's much better when the rest of the band is adapting and playing off each other. Too much classic rock/blues could be a backing track with the amount of variation in the rhythm section. Yawn