Can't find a simple 2ch bypass switcher....:/

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Can't find a simple 2ch bypass switcher....:/

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I'm getting frustrated here. If I wanted to find an envelope controlled tremelo with a build in ring modulator, I'd have less trouble finding it online.

But now that I'm looking for a cheap compact switcher that'll let me hook up seperate loops for my dirty/dry and clean/wet signal, I can't find anything that just has an A/B footswitch and a Both/Off footswitch.

It's always two seperate switches for the the two loops, with two stomps to go from one loop to to the other. OR it's got two switches, one for each loop, where you only need to stomp ons to select one loop and mute the other one...but NO way to put the two loops in series and use 'em togther. The only switchers I found that do both, have a big bulky enclosure with three switches :mad:

Don't tell me the only way to get there is by building the damn thing myself? :idk: :facepalm: :mad:

Edit: found EXACTLY what I need...only on the other side of the planet (I'm Europe) :facepalm:
https://www.americanloopers.com/collect ... -b-or-both
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Re: Can't find a simple 2ch bypass switcher....:/

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have you checked out bright onion in UK? they do all sorts of switchers
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https://www.one-control.com/switcher/tri-loop

Maybe one control has something else too.
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this doesnt let you do both, but is cheap:

https://m.aliexpress.com/item/323493587 ... 2007%22%7D
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One control doesn't have one. Bright Onion does apparantly. But I'm in the EU, so the shipping/taxes and import fees completley kill the deal.

Still haven't found anything. I'd rather order one for 60Euro or something than build one myself for half the price. Byoc sells a kit, but it's not available in the EU, and it'd cost me considerably more than what the parts would cost me elsewhere.
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fwiw i've ordered stuff from france since we brexit'd and not paid a penny in duties etc. you might get lucky!
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I think it'll be about 60GBP even if I someone don't have to pay any duties or custums fees or anything. I've heard from multiple sources who bought stuff from the UK, you apparantly can't smuggle anything into the EU from the UK without paying duties/taxes :/

Weird, stupid actually, that I'd have to go through such greath lenghts to find a simple dual bypass looper that doesn't require as much tap dancing as using my pedals without a bypass looper :/
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Whatever you or anyone else does, do not order through Loop-master. That person is undergoing health issues, apparently, and is not responsive nor apparently giving refunds. Just a heads up.
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frigid midget wrote:One control doesn't have one. Bright Onion does apparantly. But I'm in the EU, so the shipping/taxes and import fees completley kill the deal.

Still haven't found anything. I'd rather order one for 60Euro or something than build one myself for half the price. Byoc sells a kit, but it's not available in the EU, and it'd cost me considerably more than what the parts would cost me elsewhere.
Check white mode on tri loop. You can turn off the buffers too. Not sure it is true bypass (like real relay switching) but shouldnt matter unless you are running a vintage fuzz in the loop.
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Switch 1 on the White Loop switches between both loops, switch 2 turns on/off whatever loop was selected and bypasses both loops. So you can't stack both loops for some stupid reason. On the Black Loop both the switches turns the loops on/off, so it takes two stomps to go from loop one to loop two, and two stomps as well to bypass both loops.

I'd even settle for a 3 loop version of the same concept, as long as the switcher is still somewhat compact and cheapish.
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This is what you're looking for, right?

https://www.loop-master.com/cleandirty- ... p-272.html

I have this pedal and find it very useful.

However, unfortunately as another guy said, it's very risky to order from Loopmaster. The guy's become notorious for ghosting customers, with people waiting months and months for their pedal to be built, with no communication at all.

I ordered two Loopmaster pedals about 5 years ago, and was lucky, because I got them both in about 2 months, which was about as long as the expected wait time. Sadly, apparently it's gotten much worse since then. So if you can find this pedal used, that's the way to go.
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frigid midget wrote:I think it'll be about 60GBP even if I someone don't have to pay any duties or custums fees or anything. I've heard from multiple sources who bought stuff from the UK, you apparantly can't smuggle anything into the EU from the UK without paying duties/taxes :/

Weird, stupid actually, that I'd have to go through such greath lenghts to find a simple dual bypass looper that doesn't require as much tap dancing as using my pedals without a bypass looper :/
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Yeah, the thing is that it costs about four times as much as what the parts would cost me, even without any import taxes. Which is why I ordered the parts last week.

I'm lazy enough to spend some money on something I can do myself, but I kinda refuse to spend an amount that could buy me a proper effects pedal instead :)

Anyway, I might risk ordering something from the UK if I come across something I REALLY want. But I suspect it's easier to dodge the fees for stuff coming into the UK, than for stuff going out of the UK. Not sure though.
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coldbrightsunlight wrote:
frigid midget wrote:I think it'll be about 60GBP even if I someone don't have to pay any duties or custums fees or anything. I've heard from multiple sources who bought stuff from the UK, you apparantly can't smuggle anything into the EU from the UK without paying duties/taxes :/

Weird, stupid actually, that I'd have to go through such greath lenghts to find a simple dual bypass looper that doesn't require as much tap dancing as using my pedals without a bypass looper :/
I've got away with it several times over the last few months shipping things to people :idk: but I get it if you don't feel like risking it and ending up with a higher bill than you wanted

I have good luck with this too, but "new rules", whatever they are, came into effect on July 1 allegedlt. Most of my purchases have been small potatoes though (records etc)
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frigid midget wrote:Yeah, the thing is that it costs about four times as much as what the parts would cost me, even without any import taxes. Which is why I ordered the parts last week.

I'm lazy enough to spend some money on something I can do myself, but I kinda refuse to spend an amount that could buy me a proper effects pedal instead :)

Anyway, I might risk ordering something from the UK if I come across something I REALLY want. But I suspect it's easier to dodge the fees for stuff coming into the UK, than for stuff going out of the UK. Not sure though.
Makes sense. At least is an easy enough build, I totally missed the dates on this thread and haven't logged in for a week so missed that you had probably sorted it :lol: :picard:
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