recommend a signal mutilator?

[dubkitty]

as part of my constant barrage of potentially harebrained ideas, i've been thinking that it would be nice--if that's the appropriate word--to have some kind of signal mutilator on the front-end board so i could run fucked-up stuff into the main board's fuzz and modulation arrays. i've been looking around, but haven't found anything that sounds right.

what i'm NOT looking for:
a bitcrusher
a synth pedal that converts everything to square-wave fuzz before processing it
something that just does extreme warbles like the Seppuku Mind Warp

what could be in the ballpark:
delay with extended functions
extreme modulation
some kind of sound degradation that isn't just converting to 8 bit

all of the above in one place would be optimal.

i'm more interested in Boards of Canada, Autechre, and a more billowy, ambient take on "To Here Knows When" and the little interstitial pieces between tracks on Loveless and the contemporaneous EPs by MBV than into the crushing, industrial NIN sort of thing. i've looked at Chase Bliss and Red Panda; neither have anything that makes the sounds in my head. any and all suggestions gratefully received.

[Chankgeez]

I was a big fan of the Adventure Audio Outer Rings when I borrowed lordgalvar's.

I guess they have a V2 out now.

No delay involved & probably not really what you're lookin' for (maybe a bit too harsh?), but a fun pedal:

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[dubkitty]

that is extremely cool. does everything wind up with that fuzzy distortion?

[Chankgeez]

Yeah, it's not a pedal that gets much cleaner.

Maybe they've cleaned it up a bit with the V2 and they didn't really show it in that video, but I doubt it.

[MrNovember]

Does this fit the bill?
https://mattoverse.com/products/mattove ... s-airtrash

[coupleonapkins]

BRO!?!?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fpAFzXC-to

[Never]

have you ruled out a ring mod? I've been playing synth w/ my Monobius prepped up so that I can flip the switch from fuzz to ring mod when I want a touch of chaos. the Feber seems like it might be great for more ambient & gazey stuff

have you considered feedback loops? you could do a classic Noise trick like setup a DOD fx25 in a feedback looper early in your chain -- you can tame it for more ambient-ish use by putting a volume pedal in the loop ahead of it (or the Kniv has an exp pedal), and a heavy but quiet compressor after it if it's too wild, before you run it into your modulation. (or try some modulation in the loop!)

[Gone Fission]

Vongon Paragraphs is incredible, my new favorite modulator after a little play time. I need one of my own. Pladask Feber demos give me some similar feels, though the Paragraphs is “a filter” and the Feber is “a ringmod.”

[manymanyhaha]

I'm sure as you all know, BoC were (are?) highly influenced by MBV.

Slow-warble (tremolo arm for MBV, tape wow and flutter for BoC), mid-rangy (MBV), lofi-ish but not necessarily narrow, compression. Have you thought about a NU-33 or Instant Lo-Fi Junky? Or the Aquaduct in mbv mode?

I love the Paragraphs after just playing it once. It is capable of having some bloom.

I also love the Feber after playing with it a little bit. It does a lot more than Ring Mod and is capable of a wide variety of modulation sounds. I can't wait until I get my new more board/system together!

The CT5 and Mood would qualify as delays with extended functions. Or Cutting Roof Floor?

Just some thoughts

[dubkitty]

some reactions:

there isn't anything here so far i don't like, but nothing that quite fits the bill. i'm getting the feeling that multiple pedals will have to be involved.

the Air Trash is a great wonky fuzz in the Devi Ever tradition, but that's all it is. i need to look into the Count To 5 more; the functions are confusing. i also have a bad vibe on MA since he refused to fix my Goodbye 24 even if i paid him. the Paragraphs and Feber are wonderful--i have a Feber somewhere in my future--but neither are quite ugly enough. The NU-33 doesn't strike me as much, and i have a tremolo bar to do the MBV thing. The Loop Junky has possibilities.

from these suggestions i'm realizing that i need:

1. some kind of ring mod--or, god forbid, bit crushing--to make things ugly and angular
2. murky delay
3. ability to control pitch on the delay with an EXP pedal.

basically, i want to disassemble the signal and fuck it up with warpable lo-fi delay and pitch-bending so i can literally play the sound of things falling apart.

i might consider moving the LAL 46 to the front-end board because it'll take anything and make tiny shreds out of it, but i'd hate to lose it as an option when i'm only using the main board.

[Gone Fission]

Get a Rubberneck, stick some helper monkey ringmod or bit crusher in the effects loop?

[MrNovember]

Get a Rubberneck, stick some helper monkey ringmod or bit crusher in the effects loop?

This is a good idea too. The Rubberneck is great with weird-o effects in the effects loop. I've got a Luminary in the effects loop of mine, but I am thinking I want to try putting my Randy's Revenge in there too.

[Never]

I just remembered Jptr FX makes a BoC pedal called Roygbiv, but I'm not sure it fits the bill -- it's a warbly PT2399 chorus with a "Grind" knob that, presumably, saturates the PT2399 for distortion

Rubberneck or Tåken might fit your list of three better with something nice in the S/R (although neither does Exp for the delay time, which would be nice for time/pitch bends. there must be an analog delay that does..?)

[K2000]

Tensor plus something. Sounds like you want to capture a loop and deform it.

[mcatano]

Maybe a patch matrix, or a splitter to send your signal into eurorack or ableton land.

Also the Meris Enzo might do something for you. Filters, ring mod, delay, arpeggiator, poly/mono synth. Tis a cool box.