Instant Paulstretch Junky?

[Dandolin]

I want that sound, how to describe it? Grainy, hollowed-out, micro-swiss-cheesed, aliased? I just want my notes to sound that way *without* recording them, slowing down the recording (and pitching them way down often times) and then playing them back, no matter how quickly, or even preciently, that process can be operated. So, timestretch sound-quality/timbre/whatever-the-fuck-that-sound(!) without stretching any little times....

How would you cobble together something like that?

Light SRR? A little bit of clipping? Comb filter? Frequency shifter? Run the signal through successive octave ups and downs? Use a crossover to do some of that to only one part of the frequency spectrum?

How???

[jrfox92]

I'm confused, do you want a timestretch or just something that makes everything sound really thin like timestretching does?

[Seance]

What you need is a cursive pedal.

You know... one that just takes your usual text and slightly... bends it... threads together each letterform.
Puts a little swag in the bag. Something the kids can't read.

[lordgalvar]

I would think frozen phase cancel over comb with some kind of srr/aliasing.

Like a dome filter.

I think the doepfer opto fet filter/phaser could be useful too (being able to be a lp, hp, all pass).

Blending in high frequency oscillations maybe too to kinda bring out psuedo artifacts when srr and filtering. Maybe just run an separate eq section in parallel to the street after the filter.

I think it's about accentuating certain harmonics that would come out as the frequency interval changes. So maybe frequency shifting would work but I think a more additive style may give better results.

Maybe even filter in some noise to mess up the phase and srr...just subtle like.

[Dandolin]

just something that makes everything sound really thin like timestretching does?

srry. yes-pretty much that second bit....

[Dandolin]

What you need is a cursive pedal.

You know... one that just takes your usual text and slightly... bends it... threads together each letterform.
Puts a little swag in the bag. Something the kids can't read.

True dat. and also a pedal designer that can translate the amorphous into objective electron choreography....

I would think frozen phase cancel over comb with some kind of srr/aliasing.

Like a dome filter.

I think the doepfer opto fet filter/phaser could be useful too (being able to be a lp, hp, all pass).

Blending in high frequency oscillations maybe too to kinda bring out psuedo artifacts when srr and filtering. Maybe just run an separate eq section in parallel to the street after the filter.

I think it's about accentuating certain harmonics that would come out as the frequency interval changes. So maybe frequency shifting would work but I think a more additive style may give better results.

Maybe even filter in some noise to mess up the phase and srr...just subtle like.

See--I should have just pm'ed ya lot to digest here.

[lordgalvar]

Haha, nah, it's good to have a discussion.

LG = tend to bend toward the over-thought, hard way.

Street probably was autocorrect language for srr

Dome filter is a part of frequency shiftin' usually...has other uses though.

If you invert a signal 2 or 3 times, it also becomes a 90 degree phase shift (like with the normalization on the intellijel invert 2 hp module) which can be useful.

In euro, the good old Richter osc ii has a phase control for the second osc out which is fun.

There are also buchla 100 patches that emulate frequency shifting with some phase tricks...but then we are getting past the point. I think phase cancelling can be useful though.

[ProCarsteNation]

IIRC the new...
Pladask?
Ezi & Akha?
one of em sounds super sweet grainy stretchy....!

But that is new as in yet to come I believe.....

[ProCarsteNation]

here we go,
it's Pladask:

https://www.instagram.com/p/Be-Tt2qg5kR ... kelektrisk

[Dandolin]

I love Pladask. I suppose granular synthesis is one way of getting close to what I'm getting at (and an awesome thing! don't get me wrong), but I guess I'm looking for something that, idk, melds more closely with your notes as you play them. But these are all great ideas, thank you! And I will definitely be watching that Pladask joint....

[kbit]

Super Ego in auto mode with a compressor before it to make sure it tracks every note , add gliss to taste, use effects loop for stuff. Might get you in the ballpark

[damnableman]

xo

[Dandolin]

This sounds like a great idea - - and within my grasp short-term. I'm going to try this with some of galvar's suggestions in the loop too....

[damnableman]

xo

[TwinAmCathedral]

Doesn't the cooperfx Outward kind of do this? Would really like to try one of those.