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any way to make fuzz sound good lined in 'stead of mic'd?

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 8:55 pm
by behndy
murp?

can get a decent bass tone until i add fuzz or too much distortion lining in to my mixer, but with fuzz? nopers.

any way to get it to sound goooood without mic'ing?

Re: any way to make fuzz sound good lined in 'stead of mic'd

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:00 pm
by Chankgeez
Ain't no way, bro.

If you find one, let me know. :snax:

Re: any way to make fuzz sound good lined in 'stead of mic'd

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:25 pm
by behndy
DAMNIT CHANKLES THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT BUT I WANT A MAGIC ANSWER PLEASE.

Re: any way to make fuzz sound good lined in 'stead of mic'd

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:26 pm
by D.o.S.
... most clubs mic your shit anyway?

Re: any way to make fuzz sound good lined in 'stead of mic'd

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:33 pm
by behndy
lol. yeah. not really playing out right now. mostly doing home based stuff currrrrently.

and more for synths than bass but I AM LAZY AND DON'T WANT TO MIC THINGS.

....... also, The Wife and i share a small room for her office and my musics, so a loooot of headphone based stuff right now.

Re: any way to make fuzz sound good lined in 'stead of mic'd

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:34 pm
by DRodriguez
Yeah, but otherwise, get a cab sim. Poor mans cab sim is to do a hi pass and low pass on your mixer. Something like (roughly) cut anything below 40 Hz and (roughly) anything above 14 kHz. Play around with your EQ.

Re: any way to make fuzz sound good lined in 'stead of mic'd

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:39 pm
by GardenoftheDead
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/amplifie ... ects-pedal

Alternately try cab impulses if this is just for home

Re: any way to make fuzz sound good lined in 'stead of mic'd

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:22 pm
by behndy
lol. fucking sansamp. VT FOREVERRRRRRR TONNNNNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEES.

hurm. i'm an idiot about eq, but i'll play with that.

i tried running my Rusty Box into an input on my mixer, CAREFUL SON. EXPLODEY EAR BITS.

Re: any way to make fuzz sound good lined in 'stead of mic'd

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:47 pm
by JonnyAngle
I have the Palmer pdi09 di box.

It's 7/10 for reality.

Re: any way to make fuzz sound good lined in 'stead of mic'd

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 9:13 am
by oscillateur
I'm using a Tech21 VT Bass DI and it takes everything I've thrown at it fine. Works great with synths too, btw.

Re: any way to make fuzz sound good lined in 'stead of mic'd

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 11:43 am
by Disarm D'arcy
JonnyAngle wrote:I have the Palmer pdi09 di box.

It's 7/10 for reality.
Yes. I use it with my bandmate on all of our records, and also for recording the demos on YouTube. It's just great. I started using those when I got a PDI 03 to run my Orange Rocker 30 head through headphones at home. After changing amps and moving to smaller clean platforms, I switched to a PDI09 to have an easy recording solution that also doubles as easy run my sound to the PA when playing live.

You can also use it alongside a microphone when recording at home or at lower volume and it will get you 99% there. :thumb:

Re: any way to make fuzz sound good lined in 'stead of mic'd

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 12:59 pm
by rustywire
Yes.
Mid hump in the EQ goes a long way; there's a big difference between using a passive & active eq to achieve this result.

What really helps is having a good great tube mic pre/di with input/output transformers as the front end, after the fuzz.
Stacking that into a passive tube eq (Pultec/Tubetech or more practically, a Warm Audio EQP-WA) is going to make it about as good as it gets.
But fuzz just sounds better with amps, the combination of pre/power/speaker distortion is where it's at :snax:
That way you can keep cranking volume until any flub vanishes.

Re: any way to make fuzz sound good lined in 'stead of mic'd

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 1:43 am
by rfurtkamp
Play with software - even the freebie VSTs are going to be better than straight in realistically.

I'm a slacker and like layering multiple versions of the same alleged amp simulation (different makers' takes on say, a Twin Reverb) and stacking them together to create FakeAmpmageddon.

For me, that's the Fender Mustang V, a now venerable first wave Behringer V Amp Pro rackmount, and a pair of current Boss GT-XXX units.

Re: any way to make fuzz sound good lined in 'stead of mic'd

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 1:59 am
by 01010111
FUZZ ALWAYS SOUNDS GOOD

Re: any way to make fuzz sound good lined in 'stead of mic'd

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 10:19 am
by MechaGodzilla
When I ran a *ahem* found copy of Ableton suite w/ max, there was a great max distortion, which was kind of a digital-sounding rich fuzz with great stereo presence. I'll try and find it, I don't have max now I've got a legit copy of Live.

It was this Shaper plugin, though whether it's worth €10 I dunno.