Extreme Time Stretch

[zoooombiex]

Interesting software - http://hypermammut.sourceforge.net/paulstretch/

Can stretch sounds up to 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 times, or freeze them. My EHX 16SDD can get pretty slow, but not THAT slow, and no freeze, and it gets a little funky at very slow settings (though in a cool way).

It did a nice job on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3AMpfdbc7U

If I knew how to build or program I would love a pedal that did this...

[D.o.S.]

Niiifty. Always love finding new time manipulation software. Can test against some other later this week, if there's interest?

[backwardsvoyager]

i'm not really sure how you'd get a pedal to do that. at the very least it'd have to be a looper with a lot of processing power. hopefully it'll be doable once these linux powered pedals (hopefully) get more widespread.
kind of funny seeing as paulstretch has been around for 10 years now. i've not been able to get as good results with anything newer.

the only thing with paulstretch, though, is how instantly recognisable it becomes once you've heard it a few times. using it on a track is definitely rewarded by using it in conjunction with other processes.
i like taking a whole song as source material and turning it into a textural layer by alternating between processes in audacity such as reversing and adjusting tempo, and paulstretch-ing with the buffer being modulated to introduce variation. it quickly gets to the point where it's totally unrecognisable and sometimes you can uncover really weird and unique harmonies, even use it for inspiration to transpose with conventional instruments.
you could absolutely create whole albums using nothing but other people's music as source material and nobody would ever notice. covert sampling ftw.

[D.o.S.]

covert sampling ftw.

[fcknoise]

I've been using paulstretch for like year now, and it's really good, but as bv said, it has a really distinct sounds. I find short clips of melodies working really well. Given that it's free I say everyone should have it

[ChetMagongalo]

the program that made a justin bieber song the theme soundtrack of a drug in an r-rated judge dredd movie.

approved.

this one?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QspuCt1FM9M[/youtube]

[zoooombiex]

That is interesting to hear the common thread among these. I see what you're saying.

I still think it'd be cool in a pedal, but I could also see pairing it with some additional processing - maybe something like the Particle - to mix it up.

[zoooombiex]

Is there a list anywhere of pedals that do looping with time stretching? I have an EHX 16SDD, which can do pretty significant stretching, but am looking to do a small pedalboard and that guy takes up a ton of room.

[zoooombiex]

Oh, I should have clarified that I didn't mean to narrow it to extreme time stretching. The amount of stretching on the 16SDD is fine for me. I guess I'm really just looking for a small version of the 16SDD. It's crazy how far ahead of its time that box was.

So, basically this http://www.thegearpage.net/board/index. ... s.1539563/

[jrfox92]

Paging multi_s to make a Mtl. Asm. pedal that does this.
I wonder if a company like Digitech might be able to do something like this, though. It'd take a powerful processor, but I can't think of any other company (besides EHX obviously) that could make a pedal that gets close to this.

[aholidayatthesea]

What if you just got, like, four of those Wally Hotone loopers? Then you could slow down your slowed down loops...

[jrfox92]

What if you just got, like, four of those Wally Hotone loopers? Then you could slow down your slowed down loops...

[Jwar]

I like the way that guy thinks on TGP. He's fucking right. The loopers out now are not innovative at all and are way behind what the PC version loopers can do on recording software. It's kind of ridiculous. It's not like the shit costs that much to make, I know it doesn't because everyone is using the same basic technology to save cost.

If someone would come out with a really bad ass one, which really cool features, I'd pay a pretty penny for it.

Max record times should be almost infinite at this point. You should be able to modulate the speeds of reverse split the signal multiple times to loop in different speeds. Really the sky is the limit.

The ONLY looper I've been impressed with is the Infinity and even it doesn't seem like it's worth it based on the cost vs features.

I love the guys who create new types of loopers like the CT5. It's different and not vast, but different enough to be fucking awesome.

Step up your game lazy ass Boss. Shit we know you can do it. Fuckers. lol

[D.o.S.]

Dude the fucking Timebender was too complicated for most guitarists. The Headrush was too complicated for most guitarists (I assume). I love the GB24 and enjoyed my Ct5 but it's somewhat natural to wonder how hard it would have taken off without the Knobs video showing off what it did, because as a general rule most musicians don't figure things out on their own, as far as gear goes. (this is also true of people).

Like if you look at that post (and David Torn is one of those dudes in the minority when it comes to blazing his own trails with gear), his outline is:

1) FIRST, BUILD A SIMPLE LOOPER WITH HIGH-END OLD SCHOOL FEATURES & CAPABILITY: build an AFFORDABLE looping device that perfectly mimics every functionality of a modified lexicon pcm42 of the early 1980's, but with a few extra features, and which might be expandable/upgradeable,
2) NEXT, build a more expensive brand-newy looping device that incorporates the best of the EDP, Repeater & Looperlative, but with some extra-contemporary, groundbreaking (for hardware) features, and which might be expandable/upgradeable, OR
3) LASTLY, look at the above knowing what those boxes were (and STILL ARE) capable-of, and build something truly fresh & innovative, and
4) have a business plan with a healthy schedule, and make sure that clear & exciting & creatively intriguing educative materials --- videos & clinics, etc --- are made available to both customers & distributors.

Lets be honest here no one is going to buy that shit (and also he's asking for way too much for something that is 'affordable' but that's a different question).

[Jwar]

Luckily I'm a bassist. OL!

I don't think that the Headrush was complicated in the slightest. It was great! Just wonky and kind of a piece of shit. LOL! I haven't tried the timebender.

Really the best looper I have currently is my H9. It has some really unique features via the app.

I do think people would buy what he's talking about. I mean, people go nuts over loopers with lots of features, so why not?

I mean I agree with you about people not diving into feature filled pedals, I'm one of those lazy bastards most of the time, but lately I've had a change of heart. I really dove into the Nemesis and it's fucking amazing and the Boss DD500. The DD has a great looper but it's really basic. So kind of shit. The Nemesis does not have one, but it's highly customizable as a delay.

So I think it's all good stuff that would be used. People that really like nerding out would dive in.