His Hero Is Gone/Tragedy tones

[BoatRich]

Any ideas on how to pull that sound off? Also does anyone have pics of their boards? There's a really rad sound like halfway through Raindance that might be like a ring mod or weird fuzz decay on the bass in the heavy sustained notes?

[rot gut]

Peavey VTM120 for guitar iirc

[Ancient Astronaught]

Peavey VTM120 for guitar iirc

I've seen both VTM120's and 5150's used by them in online videos. Never really seen any pedals on the floor though.

[insubordination]

HHIG was all VTM 120. Tragedy had a couple different rigs they went through, and were big into slaving. I talked to them about their rigs on the "Nerve Damage" tour, Yannick had a Traynor and something else, and Todd was playing a Traynor (?) into a Sunn Beta slave (I think, I may be woefully misremembering/confusing these, since it was 9 years ago). I know the Sunn thing is correct because Todd cited Unwound as an influence for using the Sunn stuff, which I thought was awesome.

[BoatRich]

Okay so basically I need a VTM even more than I already thought. Hell yeah. Good to know on the slaving too. I've always been interested in doing that.

[misterstomach]

Tragedy hasn't used vtm' since their very early days, if ever, although that was the amp for both of them in hhig. Todd used to use a sunn coliseum lead slaved into another coliseum lead. He actually slaved it so that he could crank it to get that sound out of the first amp and then make it not quite so loud with the slaved head. Those amps are stupid loud. The amp that I think kind of defines his sound as most people think of it now is a modded v4, although he now plays live with a modded 6505+. But I'm pretty sure that amp isn't on recordings. Yannick has been playing through an old traynor for years, although I think he's owned every cool amp ever. I believe the only pedal I've see yannick play is an okko dominator. I think Todd started off with rat into the v4, I could be wrong about that, but I know in later years it's been a Mesa v-twin pedal. I think the bass is straight into an SVT, but a pedal could have been added at some point. Who knows what happens in a studio, but I can promise you those dudes aren't playing in real life with a ring mod or anything. What I can tell you is that Todd and yannick both have insanely good ears and intuition for dialing gear in and they could both probably make a peavey rage sound better than most people could do with a jcm 800 and the fuzz of your choice.

[Ancient Astronaught]

Tragedy hasn't used vtm' since their very early days, if ever, although that was the amp for both of them in hhig. Todd used to use a sunn coliseum lead slaved into another coliseum lead. He actually slaved it so that he could crank it to get that sound out of the first amp and then make it not quite so loud with the slaved head. Those amps are stupid loud. The amp that I think kind of defines his sound as most people think of it now is a modded v4, although he now plays live with a modded 6505+. But I'm pretty sure that amp isn't on recordings. Yannick has been playing through an old traynor for years, although I think he's owned every cool amp ever. I believe the only pedal I've see yannick play is an okko dominator. I think Todd started off with rat into the v4, I could be wrong about that, but I know in later years it's been a Mesa v-twin pedal. I think the bass is straight into an SVT, but a pedal could have been added at some point. Who knows what happens in a studio, but I can promise you those dudes aren't playing in real life with a ring mod or anything. What I can tell you is that Todd and yannick both have insanely good ears and intuition for dialing gear in and they could both probably make a peavey rage sound better than most people could do with a jcm 800 and the fuzz of your choice.

Thanks Parker

[Ancient Astronaught]

I should not have looked up VTM120 demo's on youtube.....

GAS PARTY UP IN HERE!

[BoatRich]

Tragedy hasn't used vtm' since their very early days, if ever, although that was the amp for both of them in hhig. Todd used to use a sunn coliseum lead slaved into another coliseum lead. He actually slaved it so that he could crank it to get that sound out of the first amp and then make it not quite so loud with the slaved head. Those amps are stupid loud. The amp that I think kind of defines his sound as most people think of it now is a modded v4, although he now plays live with a modded 6505+. But I'm pretty sure that amp isn't on recordings. Yannick has been playing through an old traynor for years, although I think he's owned every cool amp ever. I believe the only pedal I've see yannick play is an okko dominator. I think Todd started off with rat into the v4, I could be wrong about that, but I know in later years it's been a Mesa v-twin pedal. I think the bass is straight into an SVT, but a pedal could have been added at some point. Who knows what happens in a studio, but I can promise you those dudes aren't playing in real life with a ring mod or anything. What I can tell you is that Todd and yannick both have insanely good ears and intuition for dialing gear in and they could both probably make a peavey rage sound better than most people could do with a jcm 800 and the fuzz of your choice.

Thanks dude! That's an interesting way to use a slave amp and definitely one I wouldn't have thought of. Good to know that a V4 can handle a lot of it though seeing as I own one.

[tashiattack]

Omg, so much YES! in this thread.

But, will listen to Union of Uranus now....

[misterstomach]

god i feel like such a nerd after my last post.

[daseb]

I'll add that when they played here in australia they used basic EHX effects for everything. LPB1 to push backlined 5150s, #1 echo and I think small clone for some of the effected darker days ahead type stuff.

But yeah, VTM120. That's the business. Wish I'd kept mine. Also I heartily endorse listening to Uranus at any time.

[chillerthanmost]

Rat into a Traynor YBA-3. That's Tragedy. 5150 on the other side. When I had my YBA3, I'd slam a Rat in front of it and it was that Tragedy tone. Seen them three time and it was always that/those rigs.