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Fuzz/OD for live settings

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 4:49 pm
by RoyalPalmer
Hey guys,

Sorry if this was posted already or if there is entire encyclopedia thread on this. I couldn't find anything by searching, so hopefully it hasn't been brought up in a while.

I have a couple more muffy, bassy fuzzes that just aren't cutting through enough when I play with the band or in a live setting. I'm looking for some recommendations of one that can cut through the mix well without being to flat. I play in a shoegazey band so it doesn't have to be anything really brutal.

Again sorry if there is an entire thread already/

Re: Fuzz/OD for live settings

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 4:57 pm
by O Drones
Elements

Re: Fuzz/OD for live settings

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:00 pm
by D.o.S.
What muffy bassy fuzzes?

Re: Fuzz/OD for live settings

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:03 pm
by neonblack
Prepare for the onslaught of recommendations.

Ill go ahead and say Mini/Fuck.

Re: Fuzz/OD for live settings

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:32 pm
by RoyalPalmer
D.o.S. wrote:What muffy bassy fuzzes?
EQD Terminal. SS/BS Hawk. And have tried a Dream Crusher which so far has worked out alright but scoops too much I believe.

I use a Fuck for my "clean" tone, just a touch of overdrive, and have a mini for the next step up. Just looking for that final fuzz for when things need to really get overblown.

Re: Fuzz/OD for live settings

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:38 pm
by neonblack
Hmm. The terminal doesn't cut through for you?

Have you tried an unpleasant surprise?

Re: Fuzz/OD for live settings

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:40 pm
by neonblack
Or hell, try the TAFM. Keep it in the family.

Re: Fuzz/OD for live settings

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:50 pm
by RoyalPalmer
Thanks for the suggestions neonblack. I will check out the unpleasant surprise.

The terminal cuts through alright, but if I am not mic'd it gets soaked up by the mix.

Re: Fuzz/OD for live settings

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:57 pm
by D.o.S.
You've already got a Fuck so you might as well go for the Axis of ILF and scour up Dr. Scientist's Elements at some point.

I thought that the Terminal was (very loosely) a member of the Superfuzz family?

There is/was neonblack's superwicked cheap Mutantes in the B/S/T -- in addition to the fact that its one of the best fuzz circuits ever, it definitely doesn't get lost in the mix. Definitely a taste-specific pedal, though.

Re: Fuzz/OD for live settings

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 6:06 pm
by RoyalPalmer
Yeah I think you are right about the Superfuzz family and the terminal.

I'm going to take another look at the Elements too.

Re: Fuzz/OD for live settings

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 6:21 pm
by myrrh
RoyalPalmer wrote:
D.o.S. wrote:What muffy bassy fuzzes?
EQD Terminal. SS/BS Hawk. And have tried a Dream Crusher which so far has worked out alright but scoops too much I believe.

I use a Fuck for my "clean" tone, just a touch of overdrive, and have a mini for the next step up. Just looking for that final fuzz for when things need to really get overblown.
I do the exact same thing. For the final fuzz up I have tried Fuzz War, Super Unpleasant Companion (similar to the Terminal I guess), Harmonic Percolator, Hoof and Tafm. Think Tafm worked out the best for me.

Re: Fuzz/OD for live settings

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 6:36 pm
by RoyalPalmer
myrrh wrote:
RoyalPalmer wrote:
D.o.S. wrote:What muffy bassy fuzzes?
EQD Terminal. SS/BS Hawk. And have tried a Dream Crusher which so far has worked out alright but scoops too much I believe.

I use a Fuck for my "clean" tone, just a touch of overdrive, and have a mini for the next step up. Just looking for that final fuzz for when things need to really get overblown.
I do the exact same thing. For the final fuzz up I have tried Fuzz War, Super Unpleasant Companion (similar to the Terminal I guess), Harmonic Percolator, Hoof and Tafm. Think Tafm worked out the best for me.

Sweet. I think one thing is I play a tele and the other guitarist plays a strat. So his fuzz tones are a little more honed in than mine so I need something that works with that. Elements has always intrigued me but I always wanted to avoid it for whatever reason. Looks/sounds like the most sculpt-able so I may give it a shot.

Re: Fuzz/OD for live settings

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 7:19 pm
by MEC
Megalith.

Re: Fuzz/OD for live settings

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 7:43 pm
by John Matrix
Have you tried putting an EQ pedal after your dirt? Worked great for me.

Re: Fuzz/OD for live settings

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 7:51 pm
by chillerthanmost
Try a TAFM, you can play with the clean blend running your already present enough dirt, and dial in fuzz to taste. That pedal pulls of three different types of fuzz/dirt sounds when you play with the two volumes, gain knob, and signal booster knob. It's pretty wild, I'm sure you know this already.

I didn't care for the elements when I had one. Too digital/modern sounding every time I plugged it in. Could have just been me, who knows, everyone loves theirs.

Another pedal I use to help me cut through the mix is the Stone Deaf PDF-1. Has a clean and a fuzz channel, the ability to boost a wide range of frequencies up to 20dB, and widen (or thin out) the bandwidth of said frequencies.