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Need some FX.
So, I've went around the world when it comes to OD, distortion, and fuzz......tried a majority of the variations and types.
Feeling pretty good about my amps, guitars, and distorted tones.
(I play in a heavier space rock / hardcore type band)
I used an OG POG, but it's died twice......used a T-Rex Octavius while the POG was being repaired....but am using a Whammy now. not ideal, but hasn't broken yet.
The octave down mixed with dry is the most basic essential effect I use. I really dug the POG though......sounded way more big overall.
I also use a Tortuga Martini Chorus/vibe, DE7, and Context reverb.
Don't use chorus much.....almost use it like a flanger in one song, and use a sea sick vibe sound in another.
Use reverb on almost all of the time. DE7 for trippier parts and "solos".
That leaves a pretty open hole in effects. I like effects and my sound could definitely benefit from some sort of "other" effects.
I was checking out phasers......whetsone and even just the plain old MXR.
I guess, I'm looking to create interesting textures of sound to mix with standard tones.
Our newer material is getting more into the space rock side of things than the hardcore.
So after all of that, should I be looking for singular pedals, or maybe like a Line 6 M series multiFX or something like that?
I've used a Boss GT 8 in the past......mostly because it was easy and sounded ok live....plus it would control my amp channels in the patches. I had came up with some interesting sound with it.
Don't particularly need a unit to change my amp channels anymore.
Feeling pretty good about my amps, guitars, and distorted tones.
(I play in a heavier space rock / hardcore type band)
I used an OG POG, but it's died twice......used a T-Rex Octavius while the POG was being repaired....but am using a Whammy now. not ideal, but hasn't broken yet.
The octave down mixed with dry is the most basic essential effect I use. I really dug the POG though......sounded way more big overall.
I also use a Tortuga Martini Chorus/vibe, DE7, and Context reverb.
Don't use chorus much.....almost use it like a flanger in one song, and use a sea sick vibe sound in another.
Use reverb on almost all of the time. DE7 for trippier parts and "solos".
That leaves a pretty open hole in effects. I like effects and my sound could definitely benefit from some sort of "other" effects.
I was checking out phasers......whetsone and even just the plain old MXR.
I guess, I'm looking to create interesting textures of sound to mix with standard tones.
Our newer material is getting more into the space rock side of things than the hardcore.
So after all of that, should I be looking for singular pedals, or maybe like a Line 6 M series multiFX or something like that?
I've used a Boss GT 8 in the past......mostly because it was easy and sounded ok live....plus it would control my amp channels in the patches. I had came up with some interesting sound with it.
Don't particularly need a unit to change my amp channels anymore.
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Re: Need some FX.
The M-Series is a great way to try out different effects and combinations. With 100+ pedal models and up to 4 at the same time (for the M13) with built in loop the creative possibilities are near endless. Sound quality is damn decent and is stomp box simple to use.
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Re: Need some FX.
Are they reliable? I feel like I've read that people have had issues with the M series??
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Re: Need some FX.
Wah. Expressive and trippy are definite possibilities.
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Re: Need some FX.
Yep, a PHASER - check out the Visual Sound Oil Can. Fab and cheap.
Never underestimate a graphic EQ pedal for different textures.
For experienting with various stuff, yeah, the Line 6 M5 or those latest things by Zoom including their G3. Plenty of bang for the buck.
Never underestimate a graphic EQ pedal for different textures.
For experienting with various stuff, yeah, the Line 6 M5 or those latest things by Zoom including their G3. Plenty of bang for the buck.
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Re: Need some FX.
Phaser is where it is at for me. Anytime I am writing a song with the band and the two guitar parts are blending together too much, i turn on my phaser and boom, instantly there is more depth and texture to the mix. I use an Ibanez PM-7, I haven't had any reliability issues. If you're willing to shell out for a whetstone, by all means. I liked the MXR phasers but they were always too bright in my set up, but I use a Mustang so yeah... grain of salt.
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Hmmmm...interesting. You just set it for a subtle slow whoosh? kinda like a cocked wah=ish tone?PumpkinPieces wrote:Phaser is where it is at for me. Anytime I am writing a song with the band and the two guitar parts are blending together too much, i turn on my phaser and boom, instantly there is more depth and texture to the mix. I use an Ibanez PM-7, I haven't had any reliability issues. If you're willing to shell out for a whetstone, by all means. I liked the MXR phasers but they were always too bright in my set up, but I use a Mustang so yeah... grain of salt.
Well, the whetstone just seems to be cool. Can do normal stuff and weirder sounds.
Never used either the MXR or the Whetstone.
Only used a DOD Phasor and the ones in the GT8.
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Re: Need some FX.
Never had an issue with my M9. Actually, after feeling like I also had a hole in my board I put it back on this morning and remembered just how awesome it is! Tweakers paradise, plus you can add expression to any and everything for maximum use.GAS KING wrote:Are they reliable? I feel like I've read that people have had issues with the M series??
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the m9 is legit.
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Re: Need some FX.
My M5 shit itself. I think they sound good but the footswitches aren't great (a little better than the DL4 etc but still surface mounted switches) and they're prone to failure related to power supplies or something too, and it's not the sort of thing that's usually fixable.spacelordmother wrote:Never had an issue with my M9. Actually, after feeling like I also had a hole in my board I put it back on this morning and remembered just how awesome it is! Tweakers paradise, plus you can add expression to any and everything for maximum use.GAS KING wrote:Are they reliable? I feel like I've read that people have had issues with the M series??
I would recommend it for working out what kind of effects you like best but i wouldn't gig with most Line 6 stuff unless it was modded first. Just my experience anyway. You can always pick up a cheap used M5 for trying out effects at home.
Other than that my method of approach has just been buying whatever pedals come up cheap on the used market that are things I haven't used before to try them out. Worst case scenario you flip and make back most or all of the money, best case scenario you find something awesome that you wouldn't have thought to buy otherwise. A few cool effects i can think of (especially for space rock kinda stuff) would be the Digitech Synth Wah, old modulation delays such as the Ibanez DML, Boss DF-2 (the feedback thing is surprisingly musical)... as far as phasers go i liked the Boss PH-1R and Subdecay Baby Quasar.
Also one thing that fucking rocks for spacey music is a step flanger. I think the Digitech Turbo Flange does that and they're pretty cheap. Flangers with different waveform options are a totally different kinda beast to normal airplane kinda sounding ones.
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Re: Need some FX.
Yeah, pretty much. I put phaser before my dirt too to make it less woosh and more wahhhhhowwwww.GAS KING wrote:Hmmmm...interesting. You just set it for a subtle slow whoosh? kinda like a cocked wah=ish tone?PumpkinPieces wrote:Phaser is where it is at for me. Anytime I am writing a song with the band and the two guitar parts are blending together too much, i turn on my phaser and boom, instantly there is more depth and texture to the mix. I use an Ibanez PM-7, I haven't had any reliability issues. If you're willing to shell out for a whetstone, by all means. I liked the MXR phasers but they were always too bright in my set up, but I use a Mustang so yeah... grain of salt.
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Re: Need some FX.
Won't be the cheap option, but if you liked the GT-8, the Gt-100 is amazing for available sounds plus weird (includes a full-bore Tera Echo better than the real thing because, well, you can automate the knobs).
Love mine (have the desktop version since I don't play live any more), it would certainly cover any realistic bases you might have.
Love mine (have the desktop version since I don't play live any more), it would certainly cover any realistic bases you might have.
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Re: Need some FX.
I'm a big fan of phaser before dirt.
GK, get that whammy, set to fourths or fifths, get some of that chorus or even vibe going and some sweet ass ambient delay or verb, add volume swells and you can get some space station-esque things going on.
My other favorite thing to do with a whammy is +2oct on low power chords where it gets all glitchy fighting for the fifth and octave before hitting heavy distortion. Makes a great feature as a once off in a riff.
GK, get that whammy, set to fourths or fifths, get some of that chorus or even vibe going and some sweet ass ambient delay or verb, add volume swells and you can get some space station-esque things going on.
My other favorite thing to do with a whammy is +2oct on low power chords where it gets all glitchy fighting for the fifth and octave before hitting heavy distortion. Makes a great feature as a once off in a riff.
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Re: Need some FX.
Thirded on the Boss options. I've been using a GT10 for a while now. I like my BAT, Dr.Sci, random fuzz for dirt, but that thing lets me do everything else as well, and normally with more options than a normal pedal can do. Expression pedal on the tremolo? Fuck yeah. A slow gear that works on massive walls of fuzz? yeah, lets do that The learning curve can be a bit steep, but those things have some options that are not at first apparent. It lets you assign effects to any switch on the board and gives you more control over the parameters of most effects. There are 50 bans that can be edited and each bank has at least 4 different channels that any effect can be assigned to.
Now that the Gt100 is out, I've been seeing them go for cheaper.
Now that the Gt100 is out, I've been seeing them go for cheaper.
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Re: Need some FX.
Learning curve on the 100/001 isn't terrible especially with the included USB editor. LOTS of choices and options, but that's what you're paying the bucks for. What sold it for me over the now-much cheaper GT-10 etc was the included new stuff (Tera Echo, Adaptive Distortion, Overtone, etc) that retails for a small fortune on its own.
Tera Echo is grand but without automation I'm sort of at a loss - it's literally half the pedal without assigns and expression control.
Tera Echo is grand but without automation I'm sort of at a loss - it's literally half the pedal without assigns and expression control.
