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How the hell do you replace the jack on a Dot/335?
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 9:06 am
by bigchiefbc
My Epiphone Dot is my favorite guitar, but the jack is cutting out. I know how to replace a jack, that's easy. But how the fuck do you do it with the Dot/335, there's no control plate or back access to the body cavity?
Re: How the hell do you replace the jack on a Dot/335?
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 11:05 am
by Jero
Good question. Must be some alien tool that goes within the fholes or something.
Re: How the hell do you replace the jack on a Dot/335?
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 11:14 am
by Achtane
Welcome to the hell of tying fishing line around components and desperately trying to pull them through.
Re: How the hell do you replace the jack on a Dot/335?
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:23 pm
by Jeff-7
Achtane wrote:Welcome to the hell of tying fishing line around components and desperately trying to pull them through.
Re: How the hell do you replace the jack on a Dot/335?
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:51 pm
by Chankgeez
Jeff-7 wrote:Achtane wrote:Welcome to the hell of tying fishing line around components and desperately trying to pull them through.
TWSS
Re: How the hell do you replace the jack on a Dot/335?
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 8:07 pm
by Achtane
Chankgeez wrote:Jeff-7 wrote:Achtane wrote:Welcome to the hell of tying fishing line around components and desperately trying to pull them through.
TWSS
Man, that only happened once and you know it!
I ONLY LOST THOSE BEADS BECAUSE THE FLANGE SNAPPED
Re: How the hell do you replace the jack on a Dot/335?
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 10:08 pm
by bigchiefbc
Achtane wrote:Welcome to the hell of tying fishing line around components and desperately trying to pull them through.
OK, I think I get what you're getting at, as far as snaking it out through the f-hole. But how do you desolder the jack from the pots to get it loose in the first place? Is the wire from the jack to the pots left intentionally long enough for it to reach all the way out the f-hole before needing to be desoldered? You don't have to take all the pots out, too, do you?
Should I just give up and take the fucking thing to a tech?
Re: How the hell do you replace the jack on a Dot/335?
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:49 am
by Mudfuzz
bigchiefbc wrote:Achtane wrote:Welcome to the hell of tying fishing line around components and desperately trying to pull them through.
OK, I think I get what you're getting at, as far as snaking it out through the f-hole. But how do you desolder the jack from the pots to get it loose in the first place? Is the wire from the jack to the pots left intentionally long enough for it to reach all the way out the f-hole before needing to be desoldered? You don't have to take all the pots out, too, do you?
Should I just give up and take the fucking thing to a tech?
Some times i you are lucky the rout on the bridge pickup is open on the treble side and you can get the stuff out that way. But hollowbody wiring is a pain!
but... here is how it's done.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3j9FFU4sXA[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS9ZB_Sgi6Q[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-r7vYSYMr5M[/youtube]
Re: How the hell do you replace the jack on a Dot/335?
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:25 am
by bigchiefbc
Mudfuzz wrote:bigchiefbc wrote:Achtane wrote:Welcome to the hell of tying fishing line around components and desperately trying to pull them through.
OK, I think I get what you're getting at, as far as snaking it out through the f-hole. But how do you desolder the jack from the pots to get it loose in the first place? Is the wire from the jack to the pots left intentionally long enough for it to reach all the way out the f-hole before needing to be desoldered? You don't have to take all the pots out, too, do you?
Should I just give up and take the fucking thing to a tech?
Some times i you are lucky the rout on the bridge pickup is open on the treble side and you can get the stuff out that way. But hollowbody wiring is a pain!
but... here is how it's done.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3j9FFU4sXA[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS9ZB_Sgi6Q[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-r7vYSYMr5M[/youtube]
But all of those videos are about replacing everything, jacks pots and switch; I just want to replace the jack. I don't want to have to take out all the fucking wiring. I've tried to find a video of someone just replacing the jack, and I can't find one. Does that mean you have to take everything out? If so, fucking forget that shit, I'll bring it to a tech.
Re: How the hell do you replace the jack on a Dot/335?
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 6:56 pm
by weed_killer
If I were in your shoes, I might try it like this:
- remove the nut/washer off the jack
- take some needlenose or other long stem pliers and reach down through the f-hole to grab onto the wires going to the jack
-carefully move the jack towards the f hole and pull it up and out
-desolder + replace jack, then reverse the pliers step and screw the washer/nut back in place
this is hypothetical though, as I've never owned a hollowbody before, so it might not work. I can't imagine why it wouldn't though.
Re: How the hell do you replace the jack on a Dot/335?
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 6:56 pm
by weed_killer
If I were in your shoes, I might try it like this:
- remove the nut/washer off the jack
- take some needlenose or other long stem pliers and reach down through the f-hole to grab onto the wires going to the jack
-carefully move the jack towards the f hole and pull it up and out
-desolder + replace jack, then reverse the pliers step and screw the washer/nut back in place
this is hypothetical though, as I've never owned a hollowbody before, so it might not work. I can't imagine why it wouldn't though.
Re: How the hell do you replace the jack on a Dot/335?
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 7:02 pm
by bigchiefbc
weed_killer wrote:If I were in your shoes, I might try it like this:
- remove the nut/washer off the jack
- take some needlenose or other long stem pliers and reach down through the f-hole to grab onto the wires going to the jack
-carefully move the jack towards the f hole and pull it up and out
-desolder + replace jack, then reverse the pliers step and screw the washer/nut back in place
this is hypothetical though, as I've never owned a hollowbody before, so it might not work. I can't imagine why it wouldn't though.
I'm just worried that the wire that goes from the jack to the pots isn't long enough to get it out of the f-hole, and if not, then I'm totally screwed, because I'll never be able to get the jack back into the hole.
Re: How the hell do you replace the jack on a Dot/335?
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 7:25 pm
by Jero
Tie a string to the threads of the jack before you try to pull it out the fhole. Then you tug the string and the jack goes back. Should work.
Re: How the hell do you replace the jack on a Dot/335?
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 8:05 pm
by bigchiefbc
Jero wrote:Tie a string to the threads of the jack before you try to pull it out the fhole. Then you tug the string and the jack goes back. Should work.
Hmm interesting. OK, I might give it a shot.
Re: How the hell do you replace the jack on a Dot/335?
Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 1:55 pm
by D.o.S.
Skill and finesse.