How do you all use your looper pedals?

[diocide]

So I've got a Ditto looper incoming, and I'm starting to think about the placement on my board. My setup is pretty straight forward, so hopefully theres a relatively "right" place for it, but I'm not sure. I think I'm starting to over think it... Heres my current pedal lineup and order;

Out front;

Pitchblack--- EHX Octave Multiplexer XO--- Bad Horsie Wah--- Phase 90 --- EA Trem Clone--- BE Musket Fuzz--- Laney AOR 50

Loop;

Boss RV3--- Boss CE2--- Ibanez DE7


I'm guessing I want it right before the musket. This way I can record it with or without any of the out front effects, and then still be able to play over it with whatever effects I want. Does that make sense? I'm thinking that if I put it before any of those effects, I will have the loop going through all the out front effects, along with my original signal, which means that whatever effect I turn on will be on BOTH the loop and my normal signal.

Am I thinking about this properly?

[Ancient Astronaught]

Placement is up to the desired end result. I put mine post dirt and delay but before verb. I use my timeline and you can choose pre or post delay looper. I choose post so I can layer different delays. I also use a volume pedal pre timeline so I can mute the non looped and change dirt tones or anything I need to that would normally be audible and then fade it in.

For your setup I'd do it at the end or pre delay. So that you have complete control of the tone being looped and the delay to meld it all back together.

[skullservant]

I've used loopers in a bunch of different ways, and depending on what you want there are a bunch of options.

Right now I have a stereo looper at the end of my chain. It captures everything, all of my pedals, etc etc. And that's the main way I use loopers
But I've also had a looper at the front of my chain, to BE effected by my pedalboard, which has also been really fun.
BONUS: looper at the front to send stuff to be effected by your board and then a looper at the end to catch the effected loop BAM

[diocide]

Do loopers (I guess the Ditto Specifically) care whether they are out front or in the loop? I'm kind of having a hard time rapping my head around this thing.

[conky]

I can't use a looper in my setup because when I try to use it with dirt everything that is looped gets mixed with my playing and it compressed and turns to a big pile of useless shit. No matter how I have tried it, it never worked for me. Clean looping was fine but when I looped some dirt and then try to play a lead or harmony with it, it all turns to shit.

[AxAxSxS]

Do loopers (I guess the Ditto Specifically) care whether they are out front or in the loop? I'm kind of having a hard time rapping my head around this thing.

The looper records and plays back whatever you feed it. So it really depends on what you want to be able to do to the looped riffage. If you want it to start clean and then become distorted, put it out front, if you want it to sounds a certain way and then change your live effects while the loop remains the same, put it at the end.

[ridingeternity]

The cool thing about putting them before fx is that if you only lay down one loop, you can switch the post fx on to make variations, this is also the bad thing about putting them before fx...really just have to logically pinpoint what you want to use it for.

I always either put them at the end of the chain to include the pre fx in the loop tones, or in an fx loop.

[louderthangod]

I have my Boomerang/Sidecar on a separate small board that I run after my other effects. I'm thinking about putting a Ditto looper somewhere before my delay and reverb and maybe even first on my main board for messing around with effects on a clean loop like mentioned above.

[sonidero]

LOOPERS!!!

How about you put the Ditto in a TB Loop then you could do all kinds of things, maybe...

This is why I need two loopers at least so I can have one close to the front and one at the end... There's nothing like clean loops with dirt and delay and verb after it, really turns it into something else... I have the Flashback, El Cap and 2880 that I use but I still need a Ditto cause it's perfect...

Here is a thread about looping in general if you're interested...

viewtopic.php?f=149&t=24960&p=417532&hilit=2880#p417426

[Bassus Sanguinis]

Do loopers (I guess the Ditto Specifically) care whether they are out front or in the loop? I'm kind of having a hard time rapping my head around this thing.

I have the Boss Rc-50 and it just can't handle the output from my pedalboard. So, it should be right in front of the pedal board. Which I don't much like because a) the Boss buffer just kills some of the rad fuzz pedals and b) why would I want to feed the different loops to one and same fuzz pedal when I got more than a few? Or how about recording a clean picking and then go all br00tz over it. Can't do. I mean... dogdamnit.

I have understood many other loopers have a lot more headroom. Just stay away from this if You have loud fuzz pedals. And I probably should flip this fucker and buy something else. Now it's been left mainly unused for a long time. But I might be using it in future to launch some pre-recorded samples.

[diocide]

I was away this weekend until now, and I came home to my Ditto... I will post some clips and my findings as soon as I get it set up. Thanks for the ideas folks...

[conky]

I can't use a looper in my setup because when I try to use it with dirt everything that is looped gets mixed with my playing and it compressed and turns to a big pile of useless shit. No matter how I have tried it, it never worked for me. Clean looping was fine but when I looped some dirt and then try to play a lead or harmony with it, it all turns to shit.

did you put the loop..























































































































.. in the LOOP?

JCM800 doesn't have a loop and the Soldano has that crazy line level loop or something to where hardly any of the pedals I own work in it.

[diocide]

So far, I'm digging the Ditto all the way a the end of my fx loop chain. It seems like its working great. I had my first band practice with it yesterday and it went well. I need to practice the tap dancing for it, and my timing was a bit off. Seems to me like shorter loops are a little better when it comes to timing, rather than recording whole sections.

[celticelk]

^^^ Shorter loops are definitely going to be easier while you're still getting your timing down. Remember to close the loop on the "one" of the next measure following your loop (if it's a two-bar loop, hit the switch on the "one" of measure 3), and very importantly, *don't stop playing* when you close the loop - you will have much more natural loops if you just continue to play through the part as you close the loop.

[new05002]

looper? I barely know her!