This Old Tube Amp... with Bob Vila (tons of pics!)

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Geeez you're old if you remember that old PBS show! Bob's not here either, it was a trick... he stopped answering my emails 20 years ago.

*cue PBS music*

For awhile now I've wanted a big loud clean Fender amp, something old, something all tube, something with reverb, a big loud clean old Fender amp to call my own. I found it a couple months ago, a silverface Fender Super Reverb.

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It's hard to exactly date old Fender amps but the features it has and doesn't have make it seem like a 1977. It's the kind of silverface that the blackface purists don't like as it's set up for maximum clean headroom, but that's perfect for me. It's 70W, got the ultra-linear transformer, master volume with pull boost, silicon rectifier, all tube signal path, tube reverb and tremolo, 4x10" speakers.

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It's all original and it has a couple old amp problems... it's got a low level crackling static sound that runs through it every now and then, the reverb is very dark and distant, the power cord is frayed and the end is hanging on by a thread, one power tube socket is super loose, plus it has all original electrolytic caps inside. The stock speakers sound really good, really warm and clear, but they're in rough shape and have been used hard for many years playing country music in small town Alberta. I wish to break in new speakers hard with heavy metal.

So let's tune this ol' girl up! We're gonna open it up, replace all the electrolytic caps, replace the loose tube socket, replace a couple old worn out resistors in the power section, clean all the tube and pot contacts, replace all the tubes, replace the power cord, replace the reverb tank and cables, replace the speakers and cables, and put in a white jewel cover.

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All this work is done with the amp cold and it's really easy to completely drain the charge from the power caps, you just have the amp on and conducting sound, then turn it off (not put in standby, turn off), and it drains completely. This is the only dangerous part of this process and if you don't know how to discharge the amp and where to measure with a volt-meter to make sure it's safe, you shouldn't open it up like this. On to the insides!

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Here's the old power supply electros, these are the high voltage storing caps in tube amps, the things you have to discharge and make sure they're discharged or they can kill you, stock Mallory's, good stuff, 40 years old is too old though and these are one of the 3 things that I think could be causing the crackling static sounds.

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I'm going to use as close to stock values as I can find for all the replacement parts and here's the new ones, Sprague and F&T caps.

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There's a bunch of electros on the turret board too, here's the new ones, good ol' 'murican Spragues again. I'm not gonna touch the big blue tone caps, those can last a long time and I think it would change the sound of the amp too much which I'm not really looking to do.

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to be continued!
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Awesome Ryan!!!! That rules. Great job so far!
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Next up is a couple of 100k resistors that have a very tough life and get very hot.. these ones looked cooked pretty thoroughly and are measuring 20k different. Because these are worked so hard and have drifted, they could be causing the crackling sound too.

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This is the only non-vintage replacement I made, I used newer tougher resistors for this job and here's where the old power cord comes into the chassis, it's gotta go too before the plug end falls off.

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New power cable installed, what a battle fighting with the little locking grommet that prevents the cable from pulling out of the chassis!

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Next up is the loose tube socket.. it's so loose it can barely hold the one power tube in place. I was hoping it just needed its contacts re-tensioned but all the tabs are just wiggly loose and the whole socket has to go. Gonna replace the other one at the same time, might as well have two perfect power tube sockets. I think the loose tube socket is a likely candidate for the crackling sounds..

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New ones, tight as tigers

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Time to replace all the tubes! Here's what was in it, it's a mix of old Fender ones, EH ones, and Ruby power tubes

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I went with a set of JJ tubes

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I didn't get pics but I replaced the reverb tank with a new long decay Accutronics, the old one was just really grubby and dark and corroded and it sounded like that too, put in new fancy gold RCA cables too.

Next thing to replace is the speakers, I wanted to use speakers that would be sweet and warm, perfect for clean tones at reasonable volume, and ideally something that would have been used in Super Reverbs, so I went with repro Jensen P10R speakers, 16 Ohm wired in parallel. Pro Co speaker wire!

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And finally, a slick white jewel!

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And that's that! One loverly and totally over-hauled Super Reverb! Really great sounding amp, warm and big and bright and clear, sounds awesome with fuzz and distortion, like it was borned to take pedals, and it was really fun to do all the work on it. And the crackling sound is gone! Thanks for checking this out!
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Very awesome indeed.

I love the insides of old Fenders. The cloth covered wire inside my Showman had this insane funk growing on it... but the smell was vintage goodness.
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Great stuff :thumb:
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Awesome stuff, Ryan! That amp looks great, and I'm sure you couldn't be happier with it! That said, am I going to be the only one that suggests that instead of that stupid Accutronics verb, you should've just hardwired a RRR into the amp? ;)
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Cool amp Ryan. Also, cool thread! :thumb:
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Nice man! You went really thorough with it.
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Very cool. My Elements has me wanting something with pretty shimmery Fender cleans too :animal:
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Now to take the best of those old speakers and tubes and make a new low wattage amp!

No? Just me...

Lovely refurb though!
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nice!

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aren't supers just the coolest amps ever!?? I have a '68 myself. It's the greatest a,mp I have played. I lucked out. The 4x10's are just so sweet.
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Very cool.
I want to hear the EGC into Elements into this.
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