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[Mudfuzz]

After a week of sleeping on it I traded in my SVTCL and HD130 for another mesa

[theavondon]

YOU'RE CRAZY!

But, it's cool.

[Mudfuzz]

YOU'RE CRAZY!

But, it's cool.

I know.. now I haz a lower amp count... crazy... but I like the toanz better and it's is more portable...

[Chankgeez]

Those Mesas do sound fantastic.

[Gone Fission]

Any thoughts on 400 vs. 400+? I remember someone having a strong preference for non plus on another forum years back but I can't remember why he went that way.

[Mudfuzz]

Any thoughts on 400 vs. 400+? I remember someone having a strong preference for non plus on another forum years back but I can't remember why he went that way.

Um.. sec...

With out looking it up because I don't remember... the plus is a lot louder and has more crushing lows where the 400 is more just big and tooby.. It's gritty sound is a bit more gritty.. really nice amp.. it does what the SVT did for me but not as much of a back breaker.. or as honky sounding..

from the gear page...

Mesa 400 vs. 400+
Hi everyone.

I know there a bunch of threads going on various sites regarding this head-to-head match up...er...no pun intended.

The main reason for this post is because I once read something about these types of amps having a higher-than-average plate voltage on the output tubes as well as having a fixed bias (non adjustable) and that some tubes handle this application better than others...yet I can't find that particular post.

First, I take it that 6550 and 6L6 are fully interchangeable, yet I have my doubts. The 400 schematic says to use one or the other.

The point of the 'post' i'm in search of mentions something along the lines of "X tube can handle the higher plate voltage much better than Y tube can, hence X will have a prolonged tube life" etc etc. I generally understand the concept that military grade tubes are a number one choice (svetlana's or GE/Philips Jan). But does the high plate voltage tolerance between tube number also come into play?

Then there is the tonal difference between tubes. I'm a Leslie sucker so i'm biased and would, off the top of my head, go for the 6550's (also beceause the svt uses them). The online consensus seems to be that people like the tonal qualities of the 400 over the 400+. Does tube choice alter the overal sound characteristics by a significant amount that the average person can distinguish between?

Also, i would love to hear some input regarding the post title.

Cheers!

Or something.. I still like the plus better and got it more as a backup/more amp/ different color thing

[Haki]

Nice! not going to use them in stereo?

[Achtane]

MMmmmmffffff

[MSUsousaphone]

Ampeg sucks ass.

Mesas are amazing.

You done good.

[Mudfuzz]

Nice! not going to use them in stereo?

No, in Ric-o-sound

[Haki]

Nice! not going to use them in stereo?

No, in Ric-o-sound

Sorry! The two Mesas were so distracting I forgot about your Rics, but that's even better!

[Mudfuzz]

Ampeg sucks ass.

Mesas are amazing.

You done good.

I think I've turned my ampeg on four or five times in total since getting the first mesa five years ago.. The MM I've had forever.. haven't used it in years and years.. I'm pretty sure I got the ampeg because I couldn't find a mesa at the time to even try and I wanted a tube amp.. and as you know CLs are about the only readily available tube amp you can find... even more so in 98.. now all I have are amps I will actually use

[Mudfuzz]

Nice! not going to use them in stereo?

No, in Ric-o-sound

Sorry! The two Mesas were so distracting I forgot about your Rics, but that's even better!

well.. in all fairness my main bass isn't RIC-o-quipped BUT both haz slave outs, pre outs, and power amp ins so

[coldbrightsunlight]

Siiiiiiiiiick. I've wanted a 400/400+ for the longest time, having two would be the shit. You have nice things!

[excane]

After a week of sleeping on it I traded in my SVTCL and HD130 for another mesa

I'm surprised you slept on it an entire WEEK

FUCKING rules