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RRR before all my fuzzes and dirts!

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:22 pm
by yallerhon
SO.

I am lying in bed wide awake just after midnight, wondering if anyone has tried a RRR before their dirt pedals?

I will try myself tomorrow. I have quite a few fuzz & od's to try it with. I would post clips but unless I use my iPhone it may be a hassle.. I can promise pics though :)

Thoughts?

And would you say it's time to crack open each others' skulls and feast on the goo within?

Re: RRR before fuzz/OD/dirt in general?

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:24 pm
by skullservant
reverb before fuzz has always worked for me 100%. I usually go reverb->volume pedal->dirt for good measure and controlled trails!

Re: RRR before fuzz/OD/dirt in general?

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:29 pm
by Dr. Sherman Sticks M.D.
RRR definately likes being behind dirt...if ya get my meaning wink wink

Re: RRR before fuzz/OD/dirt in general?

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:51 pm
by Derelict78
yeah its pretty radical pre dirt
try fuzz ->RRR -> OD/dist.

Re: RRR before fuzz/OD/dirt in general?

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:44 pm
by excane
I've tried it both ways.

Still kinda prefer it last or next to last in the chain. Maybe I should dick around more with it in front of dirt....I'm curious now.

Re: RRR before fuzz/OD/dirt in general?

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:46 pm
by Muse FTW
I tend to like reverb after everything BUT recently I've been digging a Dispatch Master (set to a decent amount of reverb and short delays) infront of The Elements. Sounds huge and messy.

Re: RRR before fuzz/OD/dirt in general?

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:26 pm
by Ryan
Reverb into dirt definitely isn't for everybody but I think it sounds cool too, big and messy for sure. I love the sound of fuzz into reverb though.. fuzz into really slow chorus into reverb. But yeah, then more dirt after that, why not!

Re: RRR before fuzz/OD/dirt in general?

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:35 pm
by Haki
Delay/Verb -> bunch of dirt -> more delay/verb.

Works every time.

Re: RRR before fuzz/OD/dirt in general?

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:02 am
by yallerhon
So it was a productive day! No pics or clips yet as I am meant to be studying for my exams..

I tried the RRR before:

Dr Scientist Frazz Dazzler
Dr Scientist Elements
Dwarcraft Shiva
Wattson FY-6 Superfuzz
NicoFX Wild Wild West fuzz
SmallsoundBigsound Fuck Overdrive
EHX Muff w/tone wicker

Consensus? Hell YES the RRR is now permanently before dirt. I loved it before the Frazz & the Fuck the most, liked it almost as much before the Elements (although my Elements is set for low-mid gain). I didn't like it before the Muff, WWWest and FY-6, but all three of those pedals I use on their own anyway. The Shiva after RRR I am undecided as I liked it when set at its more 'normal' fuzz, and less so when set all starved and glitchy (and this is how I use it). Although I am going to explore further the glitchy Shiva modes with delay..

I enjoyed the experiment so much; RRR into Fuck (set to always-on 'fuck') then my Tremolessence is a new tone that I definitely will be using on my upcoming recording. I moved my volume pedal to the start of my chain and my new combo for swells is Vol Pedal > RRR > Elements > Sunny Day Delay. Talk about massive post-rock ambience!

All in all, this has opened up a whole extra cache of tonal options and versatility for my RRR, and I am doubly pleased that it meant I could move my volume pedal & tuner to the start of my chain and still love my tone. In fact I love my swells more than ever now. It also means my incoming Bluesky will sit at the end of my chain (it was feeling a bit redundant to consider having both reverbs at the end) Reverb sandwich!!

I hope this has been mildly informative for some people, I'll take pics tomorrow with some of my settings.

Re: RRR before all my fuzzes and dirts!

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:29 am
by Dr. Sherman Sticks M.D.
yum yum reverb sammiches are the best!

Re: RRR before all my fuzzes and dirts!

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:21 am
by Ryan
Nice resolution to the interesting conundrum, way to go Ben!

Alright, let's crack these skulls open and get at that goo, we've earned it...

Re: RRR before all my fuzzes and dirts!

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:29 am
by hclapp219
reverb before dirt rules!!!! I found the key is to set the mix lower than you would normally if you were playing clean to keep in under control. Well, that is if you want to keep it under control.

Re: RRR before all my fuzzes and dirts!

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:57 am
by Ryan
Totally, for reverb and delay into high gain they need to be mixed really subtly to sound nice... I bet these guys ain't into sounding nice though!

Re: RRR before all my fuzzes and dirts!

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:42 pm
by codetocontra
Ugh, finding this thread and not having band practice tonight is going to make me tear apart my board again. I already had some different placement ideas... Might be time for a change and ditch the PT2 anyway.

Re: RRR before all my fuzzes and dirts!

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:32 pm
by fungalattack
I love putting verb before fuzz to get a really distant, chaotic heap of fuzzy reverberations. It is an interesting technique for foggy, grey atmospheric chords and hazy noise undertones!