To go high end amp or not to go high end amp?

[MSUsousaphone]

OK...I think this is an opinion thing...but I'm totally on the fence so I was hoping to get some words of wisdom on it.

I've been slowly building my pedal board with no other GAS but for pedals....when all of a sudden someone posts a Glockenklang head in the TB classifieds. Now it's WAY too much for what I need but it totally got me GASing on a Glockenklang 210 combo. I currently have an Eden Nemesis 700W head with Eden 115 and 410 cabs. I'd be losing a lot of wattage...but now that I've seen all of the venues I play at DIs me into their own sound, anyways, I'm cool with that. I got to play a Glockenklang once and that sound is just.....wow.

I was completely caught up in the GAS when I started to remember all the FUZZ and other abrasive effects I run. I love to just put on my Second Voice or my TA!FM and blow stuff away along with The elements. I haven't blown anything out, yet....not really sure if all the talk about blowing speakers out is an "old wives tale" or truth. I mean, I know it happens...but I treat my shit, right. Make sure the peak light doesn't come on and don't run the gain way high. I'm like in the lower 5% when it comes to experience with effects on here and I'd love to have some thoughts on this. So would worry about spending a ton of money on a combo amp and then blowing out the speakers with all my fuzzy fuzz fuzz be a valid concern? And if so, is it so valid I should just stick with my Eden rig?

Would it be like buying a Ferrari to go riding offroad in the mud and wasting it?
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[MSUsousaphone]

To add to this a little....I use a lot of effects but on about half the songs we play, I go clean. So it's totally worth it to me as far as my clean sound is concerned and I would use that enough to make it count.....I'm just more concerned about the not so clean stuff I do to my shit not being the type of stuff one wants to do on something they saved up for and can't afford to replace......often.

[Deltaphoenix]

Grow some balls and shut up, geez

[MSUsousaphone]

I think I would be cool with that, if I had just clean balls. But sometimes I like fuzzy balls. I'm not sure if I should spend all that money to grow extra balls when I could be blowing them out with the fuzz I put on the balls.

It's like getting really nice balls before I use them as mud flaps to go offroad.....in your ass.

[theavondon]

Grow some balls and shut up, geez

I mean, I could say more, but really this.

[Bassus Sanguinis]

To quote samael lyrics 'Yes' Is the answer to everything. Don't know if they were referring to the prog band or then they just are positively satanic. I think it's the latter one.

Seriously: go ahead buy a new amp if it improves Your sounds. Good amp is always a wonderful thing. Just try it before You buy it so YOu know it has enough headroom for the fuzz. Surprisingly, the good ones usually do. Only a few crap /faulty ones have failed me when it comes to that. If it hasn't got enough headroom it was an expensive piece of shit and You'll have to return it. Only way to be sure is by trying it out. It's that simple.

SO stop wondering and educate Yourself, read the manuals, try it out with Your own gear and go for it.

[lapsteel]

Jesus.
If you can afford a fucking Ferrari buy it Goddamn it. Raise the suspension put some big fuzzy tires on it and take it off road who cares....

Go get that amp. Having a killer amp is way better than having thousands of pedals. Don't ever feel sympathy for hitting a nice amp with killer pedals either....give that amp everything you got and it will deliver.

[dubkitty]

i'm going with "b" as the answer to the Samael question, because i can't think of anything in the Yes catalog that deals with the question "shall we go to dinner?"

if you're basically using the amp as a monitor at moderate gain w/o peaking while your signal is being DIed i don't see the potential problem. sure, you COULD blow up the speakers. but if they're building that level of amp with speakers that puke at moderate gain levels, how do they have a good reputation?

[tuffteef]

i skimmed it


HIGH END AMP FOR WIN

[MSUsousaphone]

Cool. I guess I need to turn my stage volume down.

My pursuit of the Glockenklang will begin. It'll probably take me quite a few months.

[D.o.S.]

semi-related: I thought Glockenklang was a disparaging nickname for Gallien-Kruger the first dozen or so times I saw them name.

Anyway, fuck that noise, buy an SVT.

[Mudfuzz]

I... am a amp person... I personally feel cheep bass > killer amp = win vs Killer bass > cheap amp.

If the amp is all that then fuzz through it should be all that otherwise it isn't really all that. I have never taken a pedal to try a amp so I judge a amp on it's clean sound.. then I will crank it to you know to see how that handles...

On the other hand.... 2X10... my opinion... NO! but for no other reason then I don't like 10s

But if you are one of those sick fuckers that think 10s sound good then more power to you.

[MSUsousaphone]

Ampeg is like the EHX of amps.

I was thinking of starting off with the 210 combo....but eventually getting a 212 extension cab with it. That's a lot of scratch for the combo alone, so it'll take me a while to save.....the extension cab will take me a good year. I started off the Eden rig with a 210 combo. I got buried in practice but every gig we played I could have pulled it off since the venues all had decent systems my amp wasn't overpowering....and overpowering the house system isn't the goal.....I think I may have found a way to get a great deal on them. Still have to save for a bit.

[Deltaphoenix]

That EHX remark is a little harsh...

[Mudfuzz]

Ampeg is like the EHX of amps.

I was thinking of starting off with the 210 combo....but eventually getting a 212 extension cab with it. That's a lot of scratch for the combo alone, so it'll take me a while to save.....the extension cab will take me a good year. I started off the Eden rig with a 210 combo. I got buried in practice but every gig we played I could have pulled it off since the venues all had decent systems my amp wasn't overpowering....and overpowering the house system isn't the goal.....I think I may have found a way to get a great deal on them. Still have to save for a bit.

Each to their own and stuff... I've played through a bunch of edens and I have never liked then... not the over all sound but I turn all the lows up and dump the highs and for me the things still were never bassy enough for me and I used a SVT for almost ten years before switching to a mesa it was/is a good amp and got a very big usable sound be it a little honky... But what I like about big amps is you don't have to turn them all the way up but if you have to play outdoors with no PA you can and they have lots of headroom
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