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School me on the Goatkeeper

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:17 am
by huggernaut
I had always been put off by how expensive this was in the past, but I ended up watching a couple of vids last night and basically just :!!!:

Is it as awesome as it looks? Is it really hard to use?

Is the sequencing as varied and interesting as it seems?

It seems like such a gamechanger in some ways, like it could drastically affect songwriting and ideas and creativity. Ugh. GAS.

Re: School me on the Goatkeeper

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:22 am
by excane
If you're willing to spend some time with it, you can create some VERY cool sounds.

I sold mine - only because I couldn't justify such a large pedal taking up real estate when I only needed something much simpler.

It's a quality pedal, top notch all around but be prepared to spend time to unlock its full potential.

Re: School me on the Goatkeeper

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:24 am
by bronzetalon
If you are going to use the lfo outs its worth it. If you ware going to only use it for trem sounds get a M5.

Re: School me on the Goatkeeper

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:33 am
by kosta
GK is amazing. For plain tremolo it is unmatched in my opinion. Add to that the CV and expression pedal options and it really becomes unbeatable. That being said, it may be overkill if it's just a trem that you're after. I have a lot of other CV gear, so the GK can be used to do some really really wild stuff.

I have mine on my board for my synth / drone project right now, and it doesn't seem to be going anywhere. I have it clocked to a master clock (a Flame Clockworks) which is also clocking our drum machine, a MuRF and a Teaspoon which makes for some really nice sync'ed rhythmic stuff in our songs. I have the GK on my synth, the MuRF is on my buddy's synth, and the Teaspoon is on the drum machine and all of our modulation is in time with each other. Pretty nice. And then if I wanted to, I could take the LFO out of the GK and use it to sweep the parameters on the Moog Delay which is also in the mix. It's a beast, that Goat.

In my experience the GK is actually really easy to use, and yeah, the sequencing is definitely as interesting as it seems. It's kind of a must have in my book.

Re: School me on the Goatkeeper

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:27 pm
by Deltaphoenix
WOW...nice set-up Kosta.

Re: School me on the Goatkeeper

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:29 pm
by oldangelmidnight
Kosta's right on.

Re: School me on the Goatkeeper

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:36 pm
by kosta
Thanks Delta! We have a good time, that is for sure.

Your old Hollow Earth is in that mix too, OldAngel. :hello:

Re: School me on the Goatkeeper

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:36 pm
by huggernaut
Kosta how do you live in NYC and have all this sweet gear and we're not friends? :lol:

I do want it basically for a trem (I don't have any other cv gear) but the concept of being able to build stuttery rhythmic patterns (with presets!) into songwriting with guitar seems incredible to me.

Re: School me on the Goatkeeper

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:43 pm
by behndy
i loved mine. miss it. goinnnnnnnnng to replace.

i agree with Kosta that it REALLY shines when you get into CV Play, but it's one of the nicest sounding trem's out there.

bugger IS huge though.

Re: School me on the Goatkeeper

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:52 pm
by Holy Schnikes
oldangelmidnight wrote:Kosta's right on.

Yep.

kosta wrote:In my experience the GK is actually really easy to use, and yeah, the sequencing is definitely as interesting as it seems. It's kind of a must have in my book.

Yep.

Deltaphoenix wrote:WOW...nice set-up Kosta.

INDEED!

huggernaut wrote:I do want it basically for a trem (I don't have any other cv gear) but the concept of being able to build stuttery rhythmic patterns (with presets!) into songwriting with guitar seems incredible to me.

I use my GK3 pretty minimally when it comes to the CV stuff, just don't have much on my board. That said, I wouldn't drop the $$ just for trem sounds but they're incredible. It's the sequencing I focus on, uniquely awesome and very intuitive control set after you sit down with it for a bit. Worth every penny for the trem and sequence options alone imo.

Re: School me on the Goatkeeper

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:00 pm
by huggernaut
Holy Schnikes wrote:I use my GK3 pretty minimally when it comes to the CV stuff, just don't have much on my board. That said, I wouldn't drop the $$ just for trem sounds but they're incredible. It's the sequencing I focus on, uniquely awesome and very intuitive control set after you sit down with it for a bit. Worth every penny for the trem and sequence options alone imo.



Actually that's what I meant, not just the basic trem the sequenced trem patterns just seem so sick.

The reason I think I don't like most modulation is because just a standard LFO speed is too boring and straightforward, but this just seems to offer so many cool options when it comes to that.

Re: School me on the Goatkeeper

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:01 pm
by huggernaut
Holy Schnikes wrote:I use my GK3 pretty minimally when it comes to the CV stuff, just don't have much on my board. That said, I wouldn't drop the $$ just for trem sounds but they're incredible. It's the sequencing I focus on, uniquely awesome and very intuitive control set after you sit down with it for a bit. Worth every penny for the trem and sequence options alone imo.



Actually that's what I meant, not just the basic trem the sequenced trem patterns just seem so sick.

The reason I think I don't like most modulation is because just a standard LFO speed is too boring and straightforward, but this just seems to offer so many cool options when it comes to that.

Re: School me on the Goatkeeper

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:03 pm
by Holy Schnikes
It really does. You can get some great patterns with the time division knobs alone or create your own custom patterns using the depth/exp pedal. That's where shit get's truly crazy! :thumb:

Re: School me on the Goatkeeper

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:28 pm
by huggernaut
Holy Schnikes wrote:It really does. You can get some great patterns with the time division knobs alone or create your own custom patterns using the depth/exp pedal. That's where shit get's truly crazy! :thumb:


Fuck. I was worried you would say something like this.

I watched one demo of creating a custom waveform posted by Lightfoot and basically just thought "shit, that's something that completely change the way I approach things"

Now I guess I need one. :facepalm:

Re: School me on the Goatkeeper

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:44 pm
by kosta
Thanks for the kudos on the set-up my dudes. Glad that the input on the GK is helpful, Huggz. I think you'll dig it if you get it. Nothing else out there quite like it. My synth / drone project (Omar Lords) is playing at Zebulon on 2/12 and Secret Project Robot on 2/25 if you wanna come say what's up. :) :hello: