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well, at this point it is looking like GC is not working out.....after a month of having to stand up for myself to pricks, things have gotten to the point where I had to gt the store manager involved on the complete lack of dignity and respect I have recieved from my supervisors and coworkers. They have it in there heads that either I am gonna take it like a little girl and do all the work that they don't want to do or else they are gonna give me hell... I used to be the kind of person to take it, but this place has actually forced me to learn how to stand up to asses like this.

I tried to talk to the manager this morning about it, he was pretty fucking clueless to alot of it. I watched one of the supervisors hit this kid in the face with a power cable and he quit the next day....the mangaer apperently had no clue about that either. I told the manager how I felt that since I actually have been standing up for myself that I felt like I would only get the same treatment, since that seems to be what bullies like this do when you stand up to them, they retaliate.

What has been going on is a handful of them will dick off the whole day while I am trying to work the best that I can with the lack of training I have had, then when the hammer comes down all fingers point in my direction. On top of that, my supervisor , who is completely socially retarded, will do this thing where something is wrong and he assumes I am the culprit. Then, he confronts me in a very aggresive manor as if he has told me "time and time again"(think a mother and her child in the middle of Wal-Mart!).Some of these guys tell me about these "hazing rituals" they do to "newbies"... This involves destroying their property(cars,clothes,etc.), "cup checking", and various other forms of abuse.I am assuming that since I have made it clear early on that this will not be tolerated by me that they have decided that they are gonna make my life difficult here. These assholes tell me about how they made one kid "cry and quit his first day."

Well, it has been a month for me, and it seems like the more I stand up for myself, the worse it gets. I had an incident last night where I was confronted by my whole department about how I had not done anything all day..This clearly being a fabrication seeing as how I had things to actually show for what I had been doing, unlike everyone else. I was already an hour late for leaving and had another job I had to be at, so I told them that they were wrong(in more descriptive terms though), they told me to talk to the manager in the morning, so I told them I was gonna talk to him right then (he wasn't there by that time). So I call him and by the time I reach him they all have already talked to him, to cover there asses of course, and he was pretty confused about what was happening. WE set up a meeting for this morning.

So, talking with him, he tells me how my supervisor and one of the asst. mngrs(they have 4) were just "frustrated with my performance." Apperently busting my ass isn't good enough? I told him about the lack of respect and dignity and he shared with me that my supervisor has a hard time conveying his feelings about his expectations(NO SHIT!), I also tell him about the "hazing" and the conerns I have that after this event that I am uncomfortable working around the people that this involves for fear of retaliation.He tells me that he doesn't condone the behaviors, but assures me that they wouldn't do it to someone unless they liked them.... I then explained to him that regardless of the motive behind inappropriate behavior(either the disrespect and "talking down to" or the "hazing") that the action is what matters and the actions are unacceptable.

He let me have the weekend off to think about what I wanted to do. He was definitely willing to help make something work, but I couldn't help but get the feeling that his loyalties lie with the other parties and that the "my word against their's" thing was weighted with the fact that not only have these guys been working there for years, but also that they bring in alot of money as well. He seemed interested in making something work out, but I think its just because he knows that a. my product knowledge is on par with people that have been working there for years and b. he really doesn't want to have to train a new person . I don't fell like its because I am valued. It has been quite the experience....its like being in neverland...where 28 yr olds never grow up and act like a cross between Bam Margera and Bill Lumburg.

I went there this morning with the intention of telling him that I was gonna walk and explain to him that the reason for me not giving my 2 weeks is for the fear of retaliation and just the dread I experience goin in everyday, he somehow convinced me to "consider" staying and working it out... I am just not so sure that is a good idea. I mean, no employee discount is worth this shit(unless its -50 percent of cost :thumb: )....not to mention that nearly %90 of things I like they don't carry. He said even if he had to put me in a different department he would prefer I stay, but I just don't see how anything could resolve this stuff. It apparently has been going on before I got there, and will probably be going on long after I leave.
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It sounds more like his concern is with you taking legal action.
There's this little thing called “creating a hostile work environment.

Probably some where in the employees hand book with the EEO stuff.

Take the week end calm down and then write up the incidents with names etc. Then on Monday tell the manager that you are going to call call corporate head quarters and lodge a formal complaint. Then call HQ and speak with some on in human resources.

You may want to move to another department at this point.

Now your but is covered.

Damaging some ones personal belongings, car, cloths etc. is a criminal act, not hazing.
If it happens call the police and file a report.

I know it sounds extreme, but the behavior will continue if you don't take these steps.
The next new employee shouldn't have to put up with that crap either.

On the subject of dealing with ass hole customers, they are every where, every one has to deal with them, and maybe at your store they had to deal with your associates before so cut them a little slack. Just be nice and polite, those that are just having a bad day will remember you on their next visit. Those who just are that way, you may never see again so do the polite, nice thing and don't worry about them.

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You know, I forgot all about the "creating a hostile work environment" thing. I thought about making a list, but only to help me articulate each even in my own mind so I don't forget important details.I am still not really wanting to go back and have a "sit down" with the manager and the other parties, but a friend suggested that whether or not I stay, I should still do this and make the manager aware of what has been going on. Best Buy is opening up their "guitar store" across the street and I am thinking that they would love to have an ex-gc'er on their side. But I still would like to keep GC until I actually have another job.

Thank you MM, I will definitely make a list and bring it with me. I am still afraid that if I do go in for the "sit down" Monday that it will just turn into a bitchfest finger pointing match. Some people have told me that these guys are probably intimidated by me and will probably choke up if they are confronted. But, I guess you can't really argue with the "law". thanks again.
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Dood, I would be out of there. Doesn't seem worth the effort to get treated like shit by your managers, customers, and other employees. But that's just me. However I would seriously look into other forms of employment.
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metalmariachi wrote:It sounds more like his concern is with you taking legal action.
There's this little thing called “creating a hostile work environment.

Probably some where in the employees hand book with the EEO stuff.

Take the week end calm down and then write up the incidents with names etc. Then on Monday tell the manager that you are going to call call corporate head quarters and lodge a formal complaint. Then call HQ and speak with some on in human resources.

You may want to move to another department at this point.

Now your but is covered.

Damaging some ones personal belongings, car, cloths etc. is a criminal act, not hazing.
If it happens call the police and file a report.

I know it sounds extreme, but the behavior will continue if you don't take these steps.
The next new employee shouldn't have to put up with that crap either.

On the subject of dealing with ass hole customers, they are every where, every one has to deal with them, and maybe at your store they had to deal with your associates before so cut them a little slack. Just be nice and polite, those that are just having a bad day will remember you on their next visit. Those who just are that way, you may never see again so do the polite, nice thing and don't worry about them.

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MM has sound advice. Document everything. Stick it out. If they eventually don't act professionally, you can make them all your bitch. Never take shit from people in a professional evnvironment. A workplace is not high school. Everyone you deal with has a boss. Eventually, you'll get to the boss that realizes that the legal consequences impede a profitable store.
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Document in detail, contact HR immediately, name some names, let em know the manager isnt doing anything about, etc. etc. Take the staff of that particular GC and rake em through the coals :rock:
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Well, I can't justify saying the mngr has done nothing yet, he did offer to have a meeting with the culprits and I to try to resolve something.
Interesting note, I talked to one of my coworkers today(she called to see how I was doing with all of this) and she told me that after I left Friday one of the supervisors involved talked to her about how they made me "cry and go run to Ted(the store mngr), so the event was more than likely a premeditated one. I don't really want to retaliate and be malicious about this, I would just like to be treated with respect and have these people held accountable for their actions.
I mean. here I am thinking that I am not doing a good job, when GC has had the lowest bar of expectations as any job I have ever had(go figure), and having more than one person kind tell me that I am terrible when I feel like I have been doing better than average is kind of a shock.
I read up on the laws regarding this stuff, and it looks like since I haven't reported this stuff yet that I am still not in the green for potential legal action. But once I contact HR and tell the store mngr whats going on that I will pretty much be protected from any more of this stuff. The only concern I have is if the mngr gets scared and buys into the lies that I really have been fucking off.
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well, I went ahead and filed a report with the ethics hotline and told them EVERYTHING. I felt bad doin it, seeing as how most of these things weren't just unethical, they were highly illegal. I also set up that meeting for tomorrow instead of today, and decided to bring a friend as an "outside party". I am not sure what to think about what might happen, I am not even sure that I want to stick around and find out. But I do feel that its a decision that doesn't only affect me, so I most go through with it with other people in mind. The next guy in really shouldn't have to go through this.
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it's a bit late, but what's the outcome of this?
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Well,it hasn't been resolved yet, I reported everything and then called the store manager to set up the meeting. I think that they think that we are gonna have a little "sit down" and discuss this like "men".Now that I have taken on the role of the "whistle blower", I will probably either be treated very well or be treated with contempt. A friend of mine is gonna come with me to be an oustide party, I am sure that is probably going to bother them somewhat. All and all, it looks like a handful of bullies are about to be held accountable for their actions. I am more than happy to keep you posted though.
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Go Darryl!
Show those fascists!
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yup, maltreatment of the workplace is no joke.

if anyone is to accept it like men, it's those bullies, it's about time they accept consequences of their actions.

if they try to get rough with u, i'll be glad to smash their faces with my guitar.
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Good. Now hopefully things will work out for the better.

As Disco stated it's no joke.

As for taking it like a man, they need to grow up and act like adults.

If they kiss your ass, good, and if they shun you, who cares it's not like they were your friends.

Disco; why mess up a perfectly good guitar?
which reminds me of the time a guitar player hit me in the head with his because he didn't like my bass line.

Let us know how it turns out.

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well, I did tell the ethics hotline about the kid that I watched get hit in the face with a power cord, it sounds like if they go ahead and contact that kid and he tells them what happened, that someone will definitely lose their job. I will keep you posted on what happens tomorrow. Thank you for all the advice so far, I wouldn't have thought of all this on my own.
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nobody pointed a gun to their heads and tell them to hit the kid in the face with a power cord. if they were gonna lose their jobs, lol, how wonderful. that's exactly how the script should turn out to.


metalmariachi: i'd gladly have some blood and peeled skin or some broken teeth etched into the guitar body from those asshats. evil demon relic! for my guitar, might as well. :D
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