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Why can't I run a Nano Muff Overdrive off a power supply?
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 6:00 pm
by nieh
Just got my Nano muff and when I plug it into the power supply (Gator GBUS 8) It won't turn on.
Re: Why can't I run a Nano Muff Overdrive off a power supply
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 6:03 pm
by MEC
I believe it is reverse polarity so it needs it's own isolated power supply.
Google "nano muff polarity" for more info.
Re: Why can't I run a Nano Muff Overdrive off a power supply
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 6:05 pm
by nieh
EDIT: I thought since I was using a power supple (
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/ ... wer-supply) It wouldn't need its own.
Re: Why can't I run a Nano Muff Overdrive off a power supply
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 6:08 pm
by Schlatte
yeah... that's a thing with positive ground pedals... they behave kinda weird in a chain /in a normal (negative) ground environment... you could do a charge-pump mod or something to get around that issue or just run it off a battery.
Re: Why can't I run a Nano Muff Overdrive off a power supply
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 6:09 pm
by nieh
Schlatte wrote: charge-pump mod
How do I do that?
Re: Why can't I run a Nano Muff Overdrive off a power supply
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 6:16 pm
by Schlatte
if you have room in your current enclosure you could fiddle it into it additionally, otherwise you might have to rehouse it or just add a little (really little) additional enclosure for the charge pump:
http://www.geofex.com/circuits/+9_to_-9.htmtadaaaa... problem (maybe... probably) solved.

Re: Why can't I run a Nano Muff Overdrive off a power supply
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 6:47 pm
by McSpunckle
Manual says it uses a negative power supply, so you can't daisy chain it. You'd have to use an isolated power supply.
... why in the hell would they do that?
Re: Why can't I run a Nano Muff Overdrive off a power supply
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 6:49 pm
by Jero
The nano ones shouldn't be positive center...odd. Considering how low the draw is with those, I'd just use a battery in it to be safe. Would last forever.
Each power out would have to be isolated for that to be true. It appears as though they are not with the gator bus. It's essentially a onespot, with extra volt options.
Re: Why can't I run a Nano Muff Overdrive off a power supply
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 10:17 pm
by MEC
McSpunckle wrote:Manual says it uses a negative power supply, so you can't daisy chain it. You'd have to use an isolated power supply.
... why in the hell would they do that?
Do you know where I could possibly find one of these "isolated power supplies"?
Ideally, it would have 5 outs and be in a super small enclosure. Bonus points for pink adapter cables.

Re: Why can't I run a Nano Muff Overdrive off a power supply
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:56 am
by theavondon
Man, why would they do that?
Re: Why can't I run a Nano Muff Overdrive off a power supply
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 1:22 am
by Scruffie
I think it's down to it being one of the earlier pedals to be 'Nano-ed' and at the restart of EHX, they had a strict policy to try and keep everything like the originals that were loved. The change from big box to standard die-cast enclosures and from positive ground to negative ground was due to customers asking for it and the business evolving to meet modern needs.
The early EHX pedals had positive ground because BOSS, Ibanez etc. (who could be claimed to have started are love of 9V Negative Ground) hadn't been established in the market so much and made negative ground 2.1mm DC jacks a standard, hence the funny phono jacks the old pedals had, that kinda supply was probably more prevelant at the time and when EHX came back, they did as they'd always done.
So it got switched to 2.1mm but positive ground, probably a mistake looking back for them, but that's how it be.
Charge pump, messing with the insides, one of those special converter cables (which are really one of the two previous options but just done for you) or a battery.
A Battery will last years though, the current drain is around 3-5mA if I remember correctly.
Re: Why can't I run a Nano Muff Overdrive off a power supply
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 1:30 am
by Holy Schnikes
Scruffie wrote:A Battery will last years though, the current drain is around 3-5mA if I remember correctly.
I know just the one.

Re: Why can't I run a Nano Muff Overdrive off a power supply
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 1:45 am
by Jero
MEC wrote:McSpunckle wrote:Manual says it uses a negative power supply, so you can't daisy chain it. You'd have to use an isolated power supply.
... why in the hell would they do that?
Do you know where I could possibly find one of these "isolated power supplies"?
Ideally, it would have 5 outs and be in a super small enclosure. Bonus points for pink adapter cables.

Well, a single ended power supply would be isolated technically. Things like the pp2+ have isolated outs. DC brick, Gator, etc do not.
Re: Why can't I run a Nano Muff Overdrive off a power supply
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 2:55 am
by devnulljp
MEC wrote:Do you know where I could possibly find one of these "isolated power supplies"?
Ideally, it would have 5 outs and be in a super small enclosure. Bonus points for pink adapter cables.

Voodoo Lab ISO5Not sure about the pink cables.
Re: Why can't I run a Nano Muff Overdrive off a power supply
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:13 am
by McSpunckle
MEC wrote:McSpunckle wrote:Manual says it uses a negative power supply, so you can't daisy chain it. You'd have to use an isolated power supply.
... why in the hell would they do that?
Do you know where I could possibly find one of these "isolated power supplies"?
Ideally, it would have 5 outs and be in a super small enclosure. Bonus points for pink adapter cables.

I dunno, man! But when I find one, I'll let you know!
... those last two posts kinda broke my heart a little.
