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Industry insiders claim JHS Pedals are cloning...Devi Ever?

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:05 am
by Gunner Recall
(I know there was a diy thread, but now that the facts are becoming pretty clear I thought I'd put this where more would see)

Industry insiders claim JHS Pedals are cloning...Devi Ever?
The ad copy for the JHS Astro Mess fuzz reminded me a lot of the whole freakish thing...
It turns out the pedal bears a striking resemblance to the Devi Ever Hyperion.

http://www.deviever.com/forum/viewtopic ... 92&t=13311

They've even gone as far as to start defaming Devi among their retailers (some of which carry Devi Ever pedals).

:flame:

Re: Industry insiders claim JHS Pedals are cloning...Devi Ev

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:07 am
by D.o.S.
Gunner Recall wrote:(I know there was a diy thread, but now that the facts are becoming pretty clear I thought I'd put this where more would see)

Industry insiders claim JHS Pedals are cloning...Devi Ever?
The ad copy for the JHS Astro Mess fuzz reminded me a lot of the whole freakish thing...
It turns out the pedal bears a striking resemblance to the Devi Ever Hyperion.

http://www.deviever.com/forum/viewto...?f=192&t=13311

They've even gone as far as to start defaming Devi among their retailers (some of which carry Devi Ever pedals).

:flame:


Link no worky.

Re: Industry insiders claim JHS Pedals are cloning...Devi Ev

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:12 am
by Gunner Recall
Sorry copy pasta'd and the link got chopped.

Re: Industry insiders claim JHS Pedals are cloning...Devi Ev

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 12:22 pm
by proroby
Pedal making business sounds like fun...

Re: Industry insiders claim JHS Pedals are cloning...Devi Ev

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 12:32 pm
by Holy Schnikes
Gunner Recall wrote:(I know there was a diy thread, but now that the facts are becoming pretty clear I thought I'd put this where more would see)

Industry insiders claim JHS Pedals are cloning...Devi Ever?
The ad copy for the JHS Astro Mess fuzz reminded me a lot of the whole freakish thing...
It turns out the pedal bears a striking resemblance to the Devi Ever Hyperion.

JHS deals in clones for the most part, right?

Shitty they're claiming this one as "original" though. Imitation = Flattery, I guess?
Funny how no one gives a shit about cloning until it happens to a builder they like. The JHS build looks cleaner at least.

Still, nowhere near the Freekish thing. That masterplan was far shadier in execution. This is just another good ol' cloning it seems, commonplace. It's insulting though when companies won't own up to it.

Re: Industry insiders claim JHS Pedals are cloning...Devi Ev

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 12:56 pm
by D.o.S.
Holy Schnikes wrote:Still, nowhere near the Freekish thing. That masterplan was far shadier in execution. This is just another good ol' cloning it seems, commonplace. It's insulting though when companies won't own up to it.

Dude, don't go around insulting God Fearing Americans and Family Men.™

Re: Industry insiders claim JHS Pedals are cloning...Devi Ev

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 12:58 pm
by bigchiefbc
Holy Schnikes wrote:
Gunner Recall wrote:(I know there was a diy thread, but now that the facts are becoming pretty clear I thought I'd put this where more would see)

Industry insiders claim JHS Pedals are cloning...Devi Ever?
The ad copy for the JHS Astro Mess fuzz reminded me a lot of the whole freakish thing...
It turns out the pedal bears a striking resemblance to the Devi Ever Hyperion.

JHS deals in clones for the most part, right?

Shitty they're claiming this one as "original" though. Imitation = Flattery, I guess?
Funny how no one gives a shit about cloning until it happens to a builder they like. The JHS build looks cleaner at least.

Still, nowhere near the Freekish thing. That masterplan was far shadier in execution. This is just another good ol' cloning it seems, commonplace. It's insulting though when companies won't own up to it.


Unfortunately, it looks like JHS went further than that. They pre-emptively sent an email to all of the retailers telling them that Devi was claiming that it was a clone, and it's apparently caused some static between Devi and the retailers. Cloning is one thing. But when you starting fucking with the original builder's relationship with their retailers, that's some bullshit right there.

Re: Industry insiders claim JHS Pedals are cloning...Devi Ev

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:04 pm
by Gunner Recall
bigchiefbc wrote:Unfortunately, it looks like JHS went further than that. They pre-emptively sent an email to all of the retailers telling them that Devi was claiming that it was a clone, and it's apparently caused some static between Devi and the retailers. Cloning is one thing. But when you starting fucking with the original builder's relationship with their retailers, that's some bullshit right there.


Yep...I don't think Devi can expect much from outing them for cloning besides maybe an apology, but the whole bad mouthing her stuff to retailers could be a serious defamation suit.

Re: Industry insiders claim JHS Pedals are cloning...Devi Ev

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:08 pm
by theactionindex
Lame. So incredibly lame.

Re: Industry insiders claim JHS Pedals are cloning...Devi Ev

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:10 pm
by hazelwould
Yea, usually I'm not into the Devi attention thing... But this is pretty messed up.

I'd contact Switchfoot with the matter if I were Devi. :)*

But seriously though, waaaaht's aguna happen to my long waitlist JHS Klone. That dude is big time, and Devi is small time... SO IOANO. :?:

Re: Industry insiders claim JHS Pedals are cloning...Devi Ev

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:12 pm
by Holy Schnikes
bigchiefbc wrote:Unfortunately, it looks like JHS went further than that. They pre-emptively sent an email to all of the retailers telling them that Devi was claiming that it was a clone, and it's apparently caused some static between Devi and the retailers. Cloning is one thing. But when you starting fucking with the original builder's relationship with their retailers, that's some bullshit right there.

Very true. If you've got the nerve to "borrow" a design for you're own profit, give credit where credit's due. Defamation shouldn't be tolerated but the pedal biz is a fucking drama filled mess as of late.

Re: Industry insiders claim JHS Pedals are cloning...Devi Ev

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:29 pm
by hazelwould
I actually would like to try the hype now.. :eek:

Re: Industry insiders claim JHS Pedals are cloning...Devi Ev

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:38 pm
by Gone Fission
bigchiefbc wrote: They pre-emptively sent an email to all of the retailers telling them that Devi was claiming that it was a clone, and it's apparently caused some static between Devi and the retailers. Cloning is one thing. But when you starting fucking with the original builder's relationship with their retailers, that's some bullshit right there.


Tortious interference with contract relations is, as you would expect, a tort. Mental distress can be included in damages. Contracts arising out of the interference can be enjoined to prevent the tortfeasor from benefitting.

Re: Industry insiders claim JHS Pedals are cloning...Devi Ev

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:42 pm
by Holy Schnikes
Gone Fission wrote:Tortious interference with contract relations is, as you would expect, a tort. Mental distress can be included in damages. Contracts arising out of the interference can be enjoined to prevent the tortfeasor from benefitting.

Sustained.

Re: Industry insiders claim JHS Pedals are cloning...Devi Ev

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:45 pm
by Gunner Recall
Is this thread now about cake? I love cake.