I kind of need an excuse

Monkeyboard · Post by **Monkeyboard** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 12:29 pm

To get an envelope filter.

I dig all the funky things you can do with them but I don't play an awful amount of funk.
What other possibilities do they have? Some fuzzy possibilities perhaps?

StudioShutIn · Post by **StudioShutIn** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 12:52 pm

I have been thinking the same thing, actually...I can't think of any names in particular, but I know some bands use envelope filters less for the funky 'whakka-whakka' stuff and more for weird textural stuff...well one recent example is Korn,,,but I don't know any other bands right off hand that have used them...

phantasmagorovich · Post by **phantasmagorovich** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 1:21 pm

Get one that you can set to a fixed filter mode and you have something with many different uses. How about a Prometheus?

modernage · Post by **modernage** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 1:29 pm

I'm really liking the idea of having a Subdecay Prometheus at my disposal.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWkKJqIeezs[/youtube]

and our very own Kayzer:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTsHG76rVpM[/youtube]

univalve · Post by **univalve** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 1:36 pm

phantasmagorovich wrote:Get one that you can set to a fixed filter mode and you have something with many different uses. How about a Prometheus?

I like the Prometheus quite a lot behind the delay (or, if your delay has the possibility, in the feedback loop) :thumb:

theavondon · Post by **theavondon** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:35 pm

Why need an excuse? Get one, THEN see if you can use it creatively. Who knows, maybe it will inspire you to write something new and interesting you wouldn't have written without one.

Seedy · Post by **Seedy** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:38 pm

Check out the "Q-tron+" forum a few posts down. I use filters all the time and I play nothing resembling funk. I mean, I love funk but I don't play it, because apparently, you can't fake da funk. My Q-tron+ is used constantly after my fuzzes as a hi/lo/band pass filter, or to give me just a little bit of movement instead of using typical modulation.

Ghost Hip · Post by **Ghost Hip** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:43 pm

Seedy wrote:Check out the "Q-tron+" forum a few posts down. I use filters all the time and I play nothing resembling funk. I mean, I love funk but I don't play it, because apparently, you can't fake da funk. My Q-tron+ is used constantly after my fuzzes as a hi/lo/band pass filter, or to give me just a little bit of movement instead of using typical modulation.

This. Great for making drones more interesting as well or making fuzz sound all sorts of fucked up.

dubkitty · Post by **dubkitty** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:46 pm

the thing i'm particularly interested in an EF for nowadays is the opposite of what folks typically use them for, i.e. i want to use the filter to sweep from high-to-low rather than the low-to-high artificial-wah effect you typically hear. i've seen/heard demos where the high-to-low sweep, combined with fuzz, compression, and other effects, can yield some nice and subtle attack and decay effects you might not associate with an EF. n.b. Kevin Shields has a Lovetone Meatball in the front end of his preposterously huge pedal rig, right next to the tuner. in the photos on the Zvex forum you can see it, set to sweep high-to-low.

Mudfuzz · Post by **Mudfuzz** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 6:14 pm

Simple... fuzz > filter = synthy goodness

one bad monkey · Post by **one bad monkey** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 7:15 pm

Mudfuzz wrote:Simple... fuzz > filter = synthy goodness

I use this for a lot of heavier rock type things, specifically riff-based. It really thickens up the low end and adds some other excitement to the song, especially when you turn it off for some breakdowns.

smile_man · Post by **smile_man** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:57 am

dubkitty wrote:the thing i'm particularly interested in an EF for nowadays is the opposite of what folks typically use them for, i.e. i want to use the filter to sweep from high-to-low rather than the low-to-high artificial-wah effect you typically hear. i've seen/heard demos where the high-to-low sweep, combined with fuzz, compression, and other effects, can yield some nice and subtle attack and decay effects you might not associate with an EF. n.b. Kevin Shields has a Lovetone Meatball in the front end of his preposterously huge pedal rig, right next to the tuner. in the photos on the Zvex forum you can see it, set to sweep high-to-low.

I sounds so fucking awesome. Good for running into fuzzes to create walls and shit.

Monkeyboard · Post by **Monkeyboard** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:13 am

And now I have one!

Thanks guys!

DarkAxel · Post by **DarkAxel** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:26 pm

have you ever heard of The Atomic Bitchwax?

(a rhetorical question i guess)

well just listen to the bass tonez on the first album (Atomic Bitchwax I)

you can use the envelope filter for some sweet tricks... muffling up your sound with sensitivity set low... spicing it up with sensitivity set high, some... other stuff...

I have the oposite problem i guess... i've got a EHX Stereo Polyphase that has an Envelope mode and even though my band has oftenly quite a lot of funked up sound, i don't really use it

but i like it!

StudioShutIn · Post by **StudioShutIn** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 3:58 pm

Monkeyboard wrote:And now I have one!

Thanks guys!

Which EF did you decide on? :poke:

ilovefuzz.com

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