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So I just bought a GGG BMP and I was wondering which version I should start with for bass.

Triangle Version
Ram's Head Version
Violet Ram's Head Version
Late 70's (3rd) Version
Green Russian Reissue Version
Black Russian Reissue Version
GGG Tuned Version
I am basically looking for a classic big muff sound with more low end retention. any Ideas on how to work in a clean blend?
I also ordered the brass master project so as far as the muff goes I would like it to sound VERRY different from the brass.

from what i know, the green russian is great for bass and guitar.

Pick the one with the largest input & output caps or change them for larger ones to retain more bass in the signal.

I also suggest trying it with only one set of clipping diodes, it works nicely with bass as it doesn't overclip the signal and is a bit 'looser' if you will.

green russian or a rams head

Derelict78 wrote:I am basically looking for a classic big muff sound with more low end retention. any Ideas on how to work in a clean blend?
I also ordered the brass master project so as far as the muff goes I would like it to sound VERRY different from the brass.

Jumbo Tone Bender is better -- one less gain stage and more clean low end bleedthrough.
But yeah seeing as you have the kit already, Green Russian for bass.

devnulljp wrote:

Derelict78 wrote:I am basically looking for a classic big muff sound with more low end retention. any Ideas on how to work in a clean blend?
I also ordered the brass master project so as far as the muff goes I would like it to sound VERRY different from the brass.

Jumbo Tone Bender is better -- one less gain stage and more clean low end bleedthrough.
But yeah seeing as you have the kit already, Green Russian for bass.

That's why I suggested leaving out one set of clipping diodes, it'll get it closer to a Jumbo Tonebender, plus it could easily be made switchable if you wanted the option for both.

Leaving out the first set of diodes is definitely a great help for bass.

As is removing the tone circuit, or just changing it up to flatten out. You can remove the grounded resistor from it and it'll work like a high roll-off sorta control too. All flat, volume boost, etc.

Pick any of the muffs, just make sure all the caps are .1uF (except the smaller caps in the tone control) or more. .01 is actually OK too. You'll lose low end, but the tone will be a bit less muddy and cut through better.

deadbeatriot wrote:from what i know, the green russian is great for bass and guitar.

yep this is what ive always thought. though i dont have any real experience with vintages.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA the green Russian (reissue) IS RAD!!!!
no modding needed this is the sound I was going for. Thank you all for the help

whiskey_face wrote:green russian or a rams head

this! I would tell you to try both. Maybe use sockets and try out the differences!

GGG Tuned sound pretty nice on Bass according to some folks at talkbass.
It's basically the Sanford & Sunny Bluebeard fuzz.

dune2k wrote:GGG Tuned sound pretty nice on Bass according to some folks at talkbass.
It's basically the Sanford & Sunny Bluebeard fuzz.

Also basically a violet Ram's head. Personally I prefer the Green or Civil War Russian (apparently my green is civil war specs) for bass as I find the GGG tuned a tad too much. On guitar I'm very happy with either.

Whichever version you make I'd advise adding the mids knob/tone stack mod.

Has anyone of you guys tried the OpAmp Big Muff (esp. on bass)? I'm kinda curious how it sounds...

im curious which resistor controls the feedback? I want MORE!

dune2k wrote:Has anyone of you guys tried the OpAmp Big Muff (esp. on bass)? I'm kinda curious how it sounds...

listen to siamese dream - thats how it sounds