Industry insiders claim JHS Pedals are cloning...Devi Ever?

[modernage]

It's going to be difficult for me to take anyone seriously when he/she can't refrain from grammatical errors when pointing out someone's misspellings...

Firstly, after reading devi's post on her own site, it's going to be difficult for me to take anyone seriously, when they he/she can't even spell. Devi 1 - 0 JHS.
(ensure, not insure. If he wants to take out an insurance policy on Devi, awesome!)

Secondly, it is blatent blatant plagiarism. Any court would agree.

Finally, I wouldn't really worry if I was were Devi. Fact is, Devi Ever FX have/has a pretty good name for themselves/herself at the moment. Anyone I know, who has have half the brain capacity of a gnat when it comes to effects, knows know brands like DE, ZVex, E13 and other well known boutique companies. Who the fuck are is JHS? Any of my friends, when they have the need for a loud crazy fuzz, instantly go to the DE site. So even if she looses loses 1% of her customers to these JHS fuckwits, everyone knows that it's not going to really matter. If they're going to get any sort of a name for themselves, it'll be for being plagiarising, thieving little shitstroms.

So the scoreline reads:

Devi Ever FX >9000 - 0 JHSFUCKWITS FX

[modernage]

didn't devi just put out a retardedly expensive clone of two pedals in one box?

Actually, it's not really the same thing. Devi has not, at any point, attempted to deny that the circuits that make up the Silver Rose are clones.

They are also out of production.

also one of those pedals on eBay costs as much as the clone of the two of them plus the eq, so despite the seemingly high price, its p much two old school "holy grail" pedals in one. and would you rather have that for $350, or pay upwards of $400 for a Super Fuzz and roughly the same for an IC Big Muff coming to a total of around $800?

$400 FOR AN ICBM?!?!?!? HOLY CRAP! WHERE ARE YOU LOOKING?
SPAAAAAAACERRIIIIITUUUUUUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLL

[CBA]

It's going to be difficult for me to take anyone seriously when he/she can't refrain from grammatical errors when pointing out someone's misspellings...

Firstly, after reading devi's post on her own site, it's going to be difficult for me to take anyone seriously, when they he/she can't even spell. Devi 1 - 0 JHS.
(ensure, not insure. If he wants to take out an insurance policy on Devi, awesome!)

Secondly, it is blatent blatant plagiarism. Any court would agree.

Finally, I wouldn't really worry if I was were Devi. Fact is, Devi Ever FX have/has a pretty good name for themselves/herself at the moment. Anyone I know, who has have half the brain capacity of a gnat when it comes to effects, knows know brands like DE, ZVex, E13 and other well known boutique companies. Who the fuck are is JHS? Any of my friends, when they have the need for a loud crazy fuzz, instantly go to the DE site. So even if she looses loses 1% of her customers to these JHS fuckwits, everyone knows that it's not going to really matter. If they're going to get any sort of a name for themselves, it'll be for being plagiarising, thieving little shitstroms.

So the scoreline reads:

Devi Ever FX >9000 - 0 JHSFUCKWITS FX

I don't know, Joshy. I take a bit of umbrage with your comma placement and "have" choice in the third sentence of that paragraph. I would have kept it the way the quoted poster had it:

"Anyone I know who has half the brain capacity of a gnat when it comes to effects knows brands like etc..."

When the OP says "anyone I know", he is speaking about one person out of many, thus that one person would "know", not "knows"; likewise, it would be "Anyone I know has", not "Anyone I know have".

It's certainly not a well-phrased sentence, but I'd say that it was at least grammatically correct.

And now it's 4 o'clock and I haven't done shit all day.



C

[modernage]

I don't know, Joshy. I take a bit of umbrage with your comma placement and "have" choice in the third sentence of that paragraph. I would have kept it the way the quoted poster had it:

"Anyone I know who has half the brain capacity of a gnat when it comes to effects knows brands like etc..."

When the OP says "anyone I know", he is speaking about one person out of many, thus that one person would "know", not "knows"; likewise, it would be "Anyone I know has", not "Anyone I know have".

It's certainly not a well-phrased sentence, but I'd say that it was at least grammatically correct.

And now it's 4 o'clock and I haven't done shit all day.



C

I was attempting to match the writing style that was already set in place with the following sentence:

Any of my friends, when they have the need for a loud crazy fuzz, instantly go to the DE site.

Working on a cohesive piece here.

But, you wouldn't say "I has" or "you has", unless you were a kitteh!

Edit: I think you are correct regarding the has/have. 3rd person singular would be "has". amirite?

[devi ever]

didn't devi just put out a retardedly expensive clone of two pedals in one box?

Actually, it's not really the same thing. Devi has not, at any point, attempted to deny that the circuits that make up the Silver Rose are clones.

They are also out of production.

It begs the question... if Electro Harmonix ever decided to dip its wick into the enormously lucrative boutique market by say... releasing a Stomp Under Foot style retrospective on its Big Muff circuits... would everyone back down?

Probably not... I think there's a bit of a public domain aspect even the most ardent of "ethical" cloners feel comes into play after so many years of a circuit being out of production.

On that note, has there been any companies beyond MXR and Ibanez who have tried to cash in on the "vintage spec" boutique market?

I was about to say I'm a little surprised EH hasn't ever gone that route... but then again they seem to be more about moving forward and keeping things cheap rather than looking back and trying to artificially inflate the value of their current line with boutique hype (Here's looking at you $400 Ibanez Tube Screamer re-issue).

[trad3mark]

It's going to be difficult for me to take anyone seriously when he/she can't refrain from grammatical errors when pointing out someone's misspellings...

Firstly, after reading devi's post on her own site, it's going to be difficult for me to take anyone seriously, when they he/she can't even spell. Devi 1 - 0 JHS.
(ensure, not insure. If he wants to take out an insurance policy on Devi, awesome!)

Secondly, it is blatent blatant plagiarism. Any court would agree.

Finally, I wouldn't really worry if I was were Devi. Fact is, Devi Ever FX have/has a pretty good name for themselves/herself at the moment. Anyone I know, who has have half the brain capacity of a gnat when it comes to effects, knows know brands like DE, ZVex, E13 and other well known boutique companies. Who the fuck are is JHS? Any of my friends, when they have the need for a loud crazy fuzz, instantly go to the DE site. So even if she looses loses 1% of her customers to these JHS fuckwits, everyone knows that it's not going to really matter. If they're going to get any sort of a name for themselves, it'll be for being plagiarising, thieving little shitstroms.

So the scoreline reads:

Devi Ever FX >9000 - 0 JHSFUCKWITS FX

Sorry, I don't take comments about my grammar from Americants. Your country single handedly destroyed a beautiful language by doing retarded things like spelling the word cheque simpler, for your nation of simpletons.

Your efforts were fail. For example:
"Devi Ever FX has a pretty good name for themselves...." is perfectly correct, as Devi Ever FX is a registered company. I don't know if they have more than one employee.

This continues right through. So when your country learn a proper language, you can give me a shout.

[trad3mark]

didn't devi just put out a retardedly expensive clone of two pedals in one box?

Actually, it's not really the same thing. Devi has not, at any point, attempted to deny that the circuits that make up the Silver Rose are clones.

They are also out of production.

It begs the question... if Electro Harmonix ever decided to dip its wick into the enormously lucrative boutique market by say... releasing a Stomp Under Foot style retrospective on its Big Muff circuits... would everyone back down?

Probably not... I think there's a bit of a public domain aspect even the most ardent of "ethical" cloners feel comes into play after so many years of a circuit being out of production.

On that note, has there been any companies beyond MXR and Ibanez who have tried to cash in on the "vintage spec" boutique market?

I was about to say I'm a little surprised EH hasn't ever gone that route... but then again they seem to be more about moving forward and keeping things cheap rather than looking back and trying to artificially inflate the value of their current line with boutique hype (Here's looking at you $400 Ibanez Tube Screamer re-issue).

Funny you should mention that devi. I'm a massive fan of the Muff circuit. I remember emailling EHX about the copyright on it a while ago. I got an email back from Mike himself, and he said "anyone can build whatever they like. They just can't call it a Big Muff."

He's not a man of many words, but it seems that it's the actual name of the pedal, ie "Big Muff" that's trademarked/copywritten.

I don't know if that changes anything, but there ya go.

[Gone Fission]

Clean blend on the Silver Rose would have me very interested if I were a real bassist. The set of handy features on the box is a step above the typical boutique cloner nonsense. (Cough! Fulltone. Cough!) The idea of putting all that together in one is probably more original than at least 3/4 of what's out there.

[bubstance]

Sorry, I don't take comments about my grammar from Americants. Your country single handedly destroyed a beautiful language by doing retarded things like spelling the word cheque simpler, for your nation of simpletons.

Your efforts were fail. For example:
"Devi Ever FX has a pretty good name for themselves...." is perfectly correct, as Devi Ever FX is a registered company. I don't know if they have more than one employee.

This continues right through. So when your country learn a proper language, you can give me a shout.

Wow, way to be both a cock AND wrong. "Has" is singular and "themselves" is plural. If you had said "Devi Ever FX has a pretty good name for itself" your comment would have been valid. Since Devi Ever FX is a registered company, it is being referred to in the singular ("has a pretty good...") but you mess that up with "themselves", implying multiplicity. Way to fuck up the beautiful language you seem so desperate to protect.

Asshole.

**EDIT** Also, way to use commas, stupid.

Your country single handedly destroyed a beautiful language by doing retarded things like spelling the word cheque simpler, for your nation of simpletons.

WOW, WAY TO KNOW THE LANGUAGE ASSHOLE.

[ohsojayadeva]

[modernage]

Sorry, I don't take comments about my grammar from Americants. Your country single handedly destroyed a beautiful language by doing retarded things like spelling the word cheque simpler, for your nation of simpletons.

Your efforts were fail. For example:
"Devi Ever FX has a pretty good name for themselves...." is perfectly correct, as Devi Ever FX is a registered company. I don't know if they have more than one employee.

This continues right through. So when your country learn a proper language, you can give me a shout.

But you originally said "have"!!!!!!! The only reason I included the "/has" is because you also said "herself". These are rules not created by Americans.

I've had conversations with Irish people in my time, and you can't convince me that we're the only country to ruin the english language.

[StopReferencing]

William Blake couldn't spell very well either.

[SPACERITUAL]

Just what the fuck is going on here. Are people honestly devolving into grammatical bickering? This shit is so fucking boring ive no idea where to start. Although ill tell you one thing, Ill be one stone cold dead motherfucker the day the irish can down on my country....or maybe youd forgotten how many of you disgusting red-haired pieces of human garbage washed up on our shores during the great dumpster food famine or whatever it was????? No wonder your people have been recognized as complete refuse since day one, imagine the first roman soldier to have seen one of your repulsive visages......fuck i would have killed on sight...


SEE UNFOUNDED GEOCENTRIC PREJUDICE IS FUN ISNT IT.


All of you need to stop pussybleeding allover my forum.

[Achtane]

This thread was already getting stupid but then some dude comes by and turns it into HURR AMERICANS R DUMB DURRRR

OH HOW I LOVE THE INTERNET

[SPACERITUAL]

way off topic...