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Re: FAILURE

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:57 am
by christianatl
revisionist history for millennials

Re: FAILURE

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:25 pm
by space6oy
space6oy wrote:the new tracks they've released suck. officially IMO. :cry:

i'm still going to see them again though when they hit cinci.
i'm taking this back now. :facepalm: new stuff feels better after hearing it live.

Re: FAILURE

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:30 pm
by WeHuntKings
christianatl wrote:revisionist history for millennials
Man, you've got a really huge hate boner for these guys don't you?

Re: FAILURE

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 1:02 am
by stilwel
New fan, old fan, bandwagon jumper, whatever...

This tune is effing magic.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmbMeKeq1UU[/youtube]

Re: FAILURE

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 2:09 pm
by casecandy
christianatl wrote:revisionist history for millennials
Could you explain this comment? I wanted to comment on it but I wanted to be sure you mean what I think you mean.

Re: FAILURE

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 3:59 pm
by D.o.S.
christianatl wrote:Hum and Failure reunions are a joke. They were both third-tier crap a hundred years ago. Now it's just sad to see them attempting to rewrite history for kids that don't know any better.

Re: FAILURE

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 11:08 am
by Faldoe
WeHuntKings wrote:
christianatl wrote:revisionist history for millennials
Man, you've got a really huge hate boner for these guys don't you?
Failure's drummer twiddle's his sticks better than the whores drummer. It makes them all mad.

Re: FAILURE

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 7:43 pm
by casecandy
D.o.S. wrote:
christianatl wrote:Hum and Failure reunions are a joke. They were both third-tier crap a hundred years ago. Now it's just sad to see them attempting to rewrite history for kids that don't know any better.
Thanks, that what I thought.

I think this is kind of suspect, for the reason that it sells millennials like myself short. Maybe we're not clueless. Maybe we are the ones revising history, not the bands. I mean, I've literally never heard a Failure track. But if people in my generation decide that music from your generation speaks to them, that is their prerogative. Maybe it didn't speak to you when you heard it. Maybe it was waiting for a new audience to appreciate it. Many bands are ahead of their time; more likely, they're just in the wrong time.

Similarly, a new generation might take a band that was worshipped in an older generation and say that it's nothing to write home about. Like, The Pixies. They were heroes to Kurt Cobain et al. I think it was that they invented the quiet/loud dynamic and that was mindblowing back in the day. But so many bands (including Hum, from what little I've heard) improved on that dynamic, that The Pixies aren't really much to a lot of millennials, in terms of visceral enjoyment. I respect the shit out of Frank Black and even love his music by times but I don't love it like I love Nirvana. And that's okay. Chris Carrabba (my all-time scene hero) recently cited Hum as a major influence and "one of the greatest quiet/loud bands of all time." Things change.

Am sick of expressing my love or hate for bands from the past only to be told by a Gen Xer or Boomer that that's not how it was back in the day. Just because you were "there" doesn't mean you know shit about anything. IMO "there" and having been "there" (allegedly) are roadblocks in our appreciation of music.

Re: FAILURE

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 7:46 pm
by D.o.S.
Dude you don't like the Pixies (who are awesome and beyond reproach) because you're a fucking weirdo. Don't attach any more significance to it than that.

Re: FAILURE

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 7:48 pm
by casecandy
D.o.S. wrote:Dude you don't like the Pixies (who are awesome and beyond reproach) because you're a fucking weirdo. Don't attach any more significance to it than that.
I like The Pixies. They've just been surpassed. But fair enough.

My argument stands but I retract the example.

Re: FAILURE

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 7:51 pm
by D.o.S.
:whateva:

I should clarify: it's not as if Hum et. al. were doing something really different that was passed over by people at the time. They're not a buried treasure waiting to be rediscovered (and I say this as someone who thinks Hum is rad as hell), they're definitely just one of many bands who were doing that kind of music at the time. I mean, Stars was a radio hit. They were signed to RCA. They were the Pumpkins for nerds.

Re: FAILURE

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 8:00 pm
by casecandy
D.o.S. wrote::whateva:

I should clarify: it's not as if Hum et. al. were doing something really different that was passed over by people at the time. They're not a buried treasure waiting to be rediscovered (and I say this as someone who thinks Hum is rad as hell), they're definitely just one of many bands who were doing that kind of music at the time. I mean, Stars was a radio hit. They were signed to RCA. They were the Pumpkins for nerds.
I accept this information as true. I don't think I was saying anything about their degree of fame.

Re: FAILURE

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 8:11 pm
by resincum
I was legit waiting all day yesterday for cc to come in and lay the smack down regarding hum/failure :cry:

Re: FAILURE

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 8:35 pm
by casecandy
resincum wrote:I was legit waiting all day yesterday for cc to come in and lay the smack down regarding hum/failure :cry:
Hahaha, I have no smackdown! But I like Hum and I'm coming around to Failure. I've always loved Autolux but never knew there was a connection between the bands. (I am ashamed of this.)

The funny thing is, for me, Mineral opening for the tour is so weird. Mineral is one of my favourite bands. "Parking Lot" is so damn good

Re: FAILURE

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 10:33 pm
by Faldoe
casecandy wrote:
D.o.S. wrote:
christianatl wrote:Hum and Failure reunions are a joke. They were both third-tier crap a hundred years ago. Now it's just sad to see them attempting to rewrite history for kids that don't know any better.
Thanks, that what I thought.

I think this is kind of suspect, for the reason that it sells millennials like myself short. Maybe we're not clueless. Maybe we are the ones revising history, not the bands. I mean, I've literally never heard a Failure track. But if people in my generation decide that music from your generation speaks to them, that is their prerogative. Maybe it didn't speak to you when you heard it. Maybe it was waiting for a new audience to appreciate it. Many bands are ahead of their time; more likely, they're just in the wrong time.

Similarly, a new generation might take a band that was worshipped in an older generation and say that it's nothing to write home about. Like, The Pixies. They were heroes to Kurt Cobain et al. I think it was that they invented the quiet/loud dynamic and that was mindblowing back in the day. But so many bands (including Hum, from what little I've heard) improved on that dynamic, that The Pixies aren't really much to a lot of millennials, in terms of visceral enjoyment. I respect the shit out of Frank Black and even love his music by times but I don't love it like I love Nirvana. And that's okay. Chris Carrabba (my all-time scene hero) recently cited Hum as a major influence and "one of the greatest quiet/loud bands of all time." Things change.

Am sick of expressing my love or hate for bands from the past only to be told by a Gen Xer or Boomer that that's not how it was back in the day. Just because you were "there" doesn't mean you know shit about anything. IMO "there" and having been "there" (allegedly) are roadblocks in our appreciation of music.
Good stuff.

People from any generation can take themselves way too seriously. Especially people in bands.