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Because the doors are fucking awesome and if you don't like Jim Morrison I weep for your progeny and your soul. Also worth noting that they were so far ahead of their time in terms of contemporary music people were actually listening to and that the musical interplay between the three musicians is A-Fucking-Plus.

I will say, though, that the endless supply of shitty self-proclaimed poets who model themselves on said singer make it pretty taxing... but I'm also a Dead fan, so separating the artist from the constituency is a thing I'm well versed in.

It seems like most of you who hate the Doors have only:

Seen the movie
Seen the merchandise
Interacted with morons in college
Heard light my fire


Its inevitable that a band that was big in the 60s will be associated with hippy culture but the doors music is anything but.....

If youve actually stopped to listen to the doors music and you still dont like it thats fine. However, basing your opinion of their entire career output on the fact that you dont like the two songs youve heard, or the fact that you dont like people who very probably have also only heard those two songs and have the opposite opinion of them, is no different from casecandy shoving blink 182 down our throats because one time when he was 15 this dreamy bro gave him a reacharound in the dumpster partition at burger king while, in the connected walmart parking lot, dude ranch was blaring from some soccer moms honda odyssey as her kids dribbled fucking icecream allover her seats.

Hows that for a run-on sentence.

YEAH MY GIRLFRIEND TAKES ME HOME WHEN IM TOO DRUNK TO DRIVE

SPACERITUAL wrote:It seems like most of you who hate the Doors have only:

Seen the movie
Seen the merchandise
Interacted with morons in college
Heard light my fire


Its inevitable that a band that was big in the 60s will be associated with hippy culture but the doors music is anything but.....

If youve actually stopped to listen to the doors music and you still dont like it thats fine. However, basing your opinion of their entire career output on the fact that you dont like the two songs youve heard, or the fact that you dont like people who very probably have also only heard those two songs and have the opposite opinion of them, is no different from casecandy shoving blink 182 down our throats because one time when he was 15 this dreamy bro gave him a reacharound in the dumpster partition at burger king while, in the connected walmart parking lot, dude ranch was blaring from some soccer moms honda odyssey as her kids dribbled fucking icecream allover her seats.

Hows that for a run-on sentence.

It's pretty good for a run-on. 9/10.

I'm familiar with The Doors. It's cool that people like them; I just wanted to join in on the fun on jumping up and down on Morrison's casket. They're not for me...I just think they're kinda sophomoric, they seem to have zero balls, and there's some weird shit happening when people associate them with the MC5/Stooges/VU (bands they absolutely cannot hang with).

But I really don't mean to start a rehash of the Refused thread on "taste," fun as that was. Just enjoying myself.

Also: Billy Corgan, Bob Smith, Cedric Bixler/Zavala (in TMV, not ATDI), Anthony Kiedis,

SPACERITUAL wrote: Interacted with morons in college

Oh my fucking lord, the Doors fan I knew in college was kind of the worst. There is no doubt in my mind that he didn't poison the band for me just a bit. I mean, I'm trying not to throw the baby out with the bathwater... but whoof. That guy...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xillqqt0Y0[/youtube]

A little surprised this wasn't posted yet.

Invisible Man wrote:there's some weird shit happening when people associate them with the MC5/Stooges/VU (bands they absolutely cannot hang with).

Bands that, and this is all three of them, have personally referenced seeing the doors live as being a singular reason they got into music in the first place.

EDIT: I retract the VU, at least lou says he didn't like the doors.

WAS THAT A FRAMPTON REFERENCE IN MY STORE?

I have got to side with Space and DOS on this one, The Doors rock, and were light years ahead of their time.

Stop thinking of them as a classic rock band and start thinking of them as an experimental art rock band and the pieces fall into place.

Consider these things I always thought were pretty neat about The Doors:

Robby Krieger didn't use a pick; his only musical background before joining The Doors, a rock band, was in flamenco guitar.

The band had no bass player (decades before The White Stripes, this); Ray Manzarek played all the bass parts on his keyboard.

Jim Morrison wrote all that music in his head, despite being 100% unable to play a note on any instrument.

He was (as this thread attests) not even much of a singer.

This means that he had to hum and dictate everything to the other band members who then did their own thing with it.

Despite the fact that he basically wrote all of it, he gave full songwriting credits to "The Doors."

Despite being lumped in with the "Summer of Love" set (Jefferson Airplane, Grateful Dead, Moby Grape, etc.), Morrison's live performances were actually quite terrifying. I don't think it's blasphemy at all to mention them in the same breath as MC5 and the VU. Lou Reed was singing about his whiplash girlchild in the dark at the exact same time as Iggy Pop was rubbing himself down with peanut butter and rolling in broken glass, true. Across the country, Morrison was ending twenty-minute performances by screaming "Yes, father, I want to kill you... mother, I want to fuck you all night long" into his mic and exposing himself to the audience. Why is that less subversive? Less shocking?

Finally consider how well Morrisson understood pop music and where it was headed. Check out this little gem:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWmMVmiGJD0[/youtube]

In case you can't watch the video, here's a transcript of the relevant part:

The new generation's music... It might rely heavily on electronics, tapes... I can kind of envision maybe one person with a lot of machines, tapes and electronic setups, singing or speaking and using machines.

We call that EDM...

Just food for thought...

Greatest hits albums are for housewives and little girls.
- Kids in the Hall

Clear alcohols are for rich women on diets.
- Ron Swanson

I'm sure I've been drinking a clear alcohol whilst listening to a greatest hits album before. UH OH

I love the Smiths, but totally undertand people hating on Moz. Still, all you dudes are missing out on one of the greatest guitar players in historyyyyy

casecandy wrote: We call that EDM...

Some of us call that the collected works of Pauline Oliveros.

Im just going to say this about the doors and that will be it. I don't really care if it converts anybody but it can't just go without saying. The retards you knew in high school have no idea what the doors sounds like. They listen to love street or whatever, buy the american poet shirt, and thats it. Its the same as the kids that buy the shirts with bob marley smoking a joint on them.

I certainly understand the sentiment. I hate bob marley and always will, and precisely because of the idiots with their t-shirts. Also peter tosh was hard as fuck soooooooo


Anyway, the doors. I just want you guys to listen to this song. Just listen to it and try and get that stupid picture of jim with his shirt off out of your mind. Dig that harsh ass organ. Listen to robby SCREAMING on guitar.

Try to stay out of the fuckin way while kreiger and manzerek push each other around. Taking shots and each trying to tower over the other while all the while morisson loses his fucking mind screaming at you about a DEAD PRESIDENTS CORPSE IN THE DRIVERS CAR...and this just 5 years after kennedy.

Listen to them as they break down and get sick with the entire song while john densmore tries to keep the whole thing on the rails. Dig that last, hateful, infantile few blasts of straight noise as the song shoots itself in the head spraying blood and grey matter allover your face.

if you still hate the doors after that thats fine but i don't think a single person can listen to this song and say they lacked balls or that they were the idiotic hippy caricature that they are made out to be. If you can't hear the influence this had on kraut, psych, noise, industrial, etc. then i don't think your ears work properly. Maybe I'm wrong. No i don't think I'm wrong but whatever i tried.


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_-HqcNum7M[/youtube]

spacelordmother wrote:I love the Smiths, but totally undertand people hating on Moz. Still, all you dudes are missing out on one of the greatest guitar players in historyyyyy

+1

Doors music does nothing for me and the whole 'jim morrison american poet native americans' bullshit is an insurmountable obstacle to ever viewing their music objectively. I like punk.