Words to describe sounds...

[MEC]

Iron Ether Oxide

[goroth]

We've just done some (short) ambientish guitar sounds in the studio for an intro to one of our songs and I thought it sounded quite industrial - low gain, "grainy" fuzz, kinda boxy sound, then a big reverb with a lot of resonance. You got a lot of the metallic chunk of the strings, the grit from the fuzz and the spookiness of the reverb. It was cool. I believe the boys may have used a DBA fuzz war but I'm not sure.

[WeHuntKings]

I've always wanted to try the Zvex machine, but they are too pricey for me to pull the trigger. Do any clones exist?

Also, cheap nasty death metal pedals are fucking brutal sounding, but not what i would call industrial. At least not in my setup. The boss hyper fuzz can pull of some mean ass machine noises in mode 2, it gets super nasty and chainsaw like.

[bigchiefbc]

I don't know about any commercially available clones, but the schematic is out there, and it isn't too bad of a build. Just 30 seconds of googling found me this:



I threw that schem into LTSpice and modeled it, and it certainly looks like it's correct. The waveform shows crossover distortion, exactly as Zach describes.

[MEC]

Made by Mike has done a few Machine clones in the past. He does good work and is fairly inexpensive on most things.

http://www.madebymike.co.uk/

[Eric!]

Gnometron is the answer to everything.

I came here with this as an answer. Or a (gated) TAFM. I always thought fuzz > octavers sounded pretty machiny and gutteral. Second Voice?!

[kurge71]

Knas moisturizer
Gristleizer

[Chankgeez]

Gristleizer

throbby

[goroth]

An even simpler build is Tim Escobodo's Triple Fuzz. The circuit was published long before the machine and apart from the 670 SHOs in the Machine, it's pretty similar. http://folkurban.com/Site/TrippleFuzz-708.html

[bigchiefbc]

An even simpler build is Tim Escobodo's Triple Fuzz. The circuit was published long before the machine and apart from the 670 SHOs in the Machine, it's pretty similar. http://folkurban.com/Site/TrippleFuzz-708.html

Yes and no. It does the frequency tripler thing that the Machine does, but not the crossover distortion.

[goroth]

Can you chuck that into spice? I'd be really interested to see how it's waveform looks. I understand crossover dist - the machine output shows it beautifully! - but not really frequency trippling. ??

[bigchiefbc]

Sure, here ya go:

So it basically takes the top of both the positve and negative peaks and flips them, creating 3 peaks for ever 1 of the original. That's what's meant by frequency tripling. As you can see, it is very different from the waveform that the machine makes, but they both have 3 peaks for each one of the original.

[goroth]

Thanks dude, that is awesome!

[Chankgeez]

That waveform is a thing of beauty.

[Ashahalasin]

One of my guitarist has a good time with the Devi Ever Legend of the Bit. Crunchy industrial.