Muff variants

[BlindtoFaith]

[hazelwould]

Skreddy has a big selection and a big reputation for a reason.

[Gunner Recall]

Just pick the one with the coolest graphic/name. Odds are you (and I mean everyone, not just "you") won't like it anyway.

I haven't tried his current muff (pig mine) so I can't comment there...sorry. Need to fix that
His stuff holds value pretty well...odds are you won't lose much if anything on the flip, and depending on the model you might even make a buck.

[oldangelmidnight]

I had the Pharaoh, both Muskets, and a Supercollider all at once. I liked the Muskets best of all. It's just a taste thing, I think. If the Musket didn't exist, I'd be perfectly happy with the Pharaoh.
Next I want to try the Hoof and a Wren and Cuff Tall Font Green.

[sanfordandsonny]

I've had a pile of pedals before that got me "close" but if you find "it" you can sell those redundant pedals and still have money left over.
The vintage EHX thing is like mining for gold the values can be across the board but when you find "it" it's gold.
So the skreddy addiction would be a more stable pursuit than a 30+ year old pedal that can drift in the next decade.
And after reading his supa tone posts I went to find out more and he is waaaaay lower priced than what I was led to believe by Snakeskin Bloozy McGhee

[sanfordandsonny]

I've heard nothing but good things about the Wren and Cuff Tall font and they did it right they did the pots right which gets overlooked on many other green russian clones but if you've tried to rehouse one you will appreciate it.
There's a reason they don't pop up used.

[01010111]

There are two muff variants conspicuously missing from this discussion: the gnomeratron and the ect.

My two cents: I love the flexibility and the texture of the gnomeratron. Lots of grumbling lows andthe 'clean' blend makes it great for stacking to create textures.
The hoof is a really great 'muff,' for me at its heart it was kinda 'the' muff, but I couldn't get past the odd nature of the tone-stack.
Right now I'm using the musket because I can tune in a variety of big-muff sounds in a way that let's me cut through without drowning out the rest of the band (turning up is all and good if you care more about your own tone over the sound of your band at large (not to say your own tone isn't important to the band at large, just that if you can't cut through without trampling everyone else under your instrument you better make sure your instrument is important enough to the overall sound to warrant the sonic assault on your fellow band members)) also the musket has a very consistent texture that makes getting orchestral swells with a volume pedal a breeze.

This discussion makes me want to get some lstr and skreddy as well... But how does the ect sit with the rest of these?

[oldangelmidnight]

There are two muff variants conspicuously missing from this discussion: the gnomeratron and the ect.

I had both but didn't think to include them because they really don't seem like Muffs to me.
I hear that the Gnome has some Muff in it's guts but the circuit is different enough and it sounds different enough that it really has become its own thing.
The ECT just doesn't sound like a Muff to me. It doesn't behave like one, either.

[benjuro]

I have Musket and Blunderbuss, Pharaoh, LSTR (sold it), Hoof, Supercollider, and a half-dozen green and black russian Muffs. The muff based platforms take up the majority of my fuzz collection.
They're all good and all different, plain and simple.
I agree with folks who look at Musket as the Swiss Army Muff, super easy to dial in great tones with fabulous lows...Pharaoh is just huge open-sounding doominess...and Hoof is disgustingly good at the rawking hot-n-greasy mids goodness once dialed in. LSTR went b/c my fave tones were when I set it up to sound like a Pharaoh. Blunderbuss is pretty far from muffy. Supercollider was probably my first "boutique" stompbox, and I've always felt that while you can get muffy tones from it, more of its range borders on distortion and less on fuzz. Great dark bottom end, and I find it works as a boost much better than most of these others--probably b/c of that clean blend tonality people mentioned.
Never had an opp. to try the ECT, Wren & Cuff, or Skreddy's stuff, unfortunately.
What works best with your rig? I use different muffs for different projects. We're lucky the brotherhood here shares so much useful knowledge. You can read only so much...nothing replaces plugging it in and turning it up.
Thank god for B/S/T.

[Bassboar]

The Baby Thundaa does get muffy, at some esettings. I think it's like a Big Muff continued, it's just got more of everything. Of all the pedals I've owned, I can't get away from having a muff of some form on there. So I will soon have no less then 3.

[WeHuntKings]

The Baby Thundaa does get muffy, at some esettings. I think it's like a Big Muff continued, it's just got more of everything. Of all the pedals I've owned, I can't get away from having a muff of some form on there. So I will soon have no less then 3.

yeah it isn't too muffy. it has the spongy pick attack we all know and love, but it has more of a distortion flavor to me. and the notes decay in a way that is completely unique...they sorta oscillate out at higher gain settings.

my favorite pedal i own at the moment. tone bypass ftw

can't wait to stack it with my custom green muff made by schlatte, though...

[hbombgraphics]

Does the DBA fuzz war count?

I have owned a ton of muffs and currently the fuzz war is on my board
Black Russian was a favorite and mine seemed to have a cleanish blend in it
Wicker muffs are pretty good and my current favorite is a GGG Rams clone I got on here a long time ago, that thing has some swat to it!

I do have a friend who chases originals Green Russians and has a rams, but he can't really use them live and they cost a ton.

[ARC Effects]

As far as Muffs are concerned the IC version is where it's at for me.

I've built a bunch and just about every version you can think of and the IC is always the hands down winner.

[bigchiefbc]

I started with the standard USA Big Muff (too wooly and muffled), have churned through the black russian (better but still a little too wooly), the LBM (wayyyyy too compressed and muffled), the BBM (fucking BLECH), and I ended up rocking the Musket for well over a year. I really thought the Musket was THE perfect muff. I generally ran it with the mids and focus knobs cranked up pretty high, so that it didn't have that round wooliness that most Muffs do, and it was crunchy and nasty. And then a few people suggested that I try an IC Muff, as it was the crunchiest and most focused of the muffs. And the tone bypass REALLY makes that motherfucker crank. So I ordered an IC Muff from MadeByMike, and that's my muff now. Nothing but great things to say about Mike's builds and prices.

[DarkAxel]

My first one was a Black Sovtek, the latest one... didn't like it, got absolutely lost in the mix plus i wasn't huge on fuzz these days...

until that one i've had a MadeByMike Green Muff Clone with added midboost for teh mids... too boomy for my rig, my tiny amp (1x12 combo) didn't handle the huge low end...

Now i have a Pharaoh and i'm pretty happy about it it has a very classic character i'd say... typical sound for leads, doesn't work with palmmuting very well... sounds huge, but fortunately not too huge it's niiiiiiiiice