Fuzz not bonding well w/ band sound.... OD?

[nightraven]

tone bypass big muff

[coldbrightsunlight]

^That maybe, an EQ/boost after your fuzz, have fuzz pedals set to a ridiculous volume boost or just a different fuzz. Muffs are super bad for sounding good in a band in my experience unless you have them set really loud.

I always find when I play with my band I have to use settings that sound horribly thin and trebly on their own but work really nicely in a mix.

[DarkAxel]

mids

[Birthday Boy]

I keep hearing this about muffs and always wonder if there isn't cheap-ish EQ pedal with a loop. Then you could put your muff in the loop of the EQ and keep it turned on, then switch on the EQ pedal to engage both the muff and the EQ. This way you wouldn't have to stomp more than one switch to get the EQ'd muff. Anybody know of a pedal like that?

Or, like people said, get some muff variant with a mid boost or similar.

[bubstance]

If your Muff's tone knob is below 2 o'clock for live work, you're doing it wrong.

Also, put a James tone stack in that shit.

[retinal orbita]

If you dig on the muffs, maybe try the Blackout Effectors Musket? Seems like the mids & focus control could really do wonders for cutting through the proverbial mix.

I would LOVE to buy a Musket.....

IC Muff is now famously the Siamese Dream fuzz sound and as famously didn't work on stage because of scooped mids.

I've played with the mids a lot and it doesn't seem to do much with my amp - the 900's tone controls are not fantastic, I think I need a solid overdrive to balance everything out, I'd like a boost but I want to try and keep my set up as minimal as possible these days..... which meants I'm probably going to swap out the fuzz for an OD exclusively in the end.... so my setup will be compressor > OD > Phaser > delay..... we'll see, thanks for the suggestions!

[DarkAxel]

If you want something with a lot of midrange, i'd personally look for Cbread DLS (you just misssed me selling one) or EQD Monarch

JCM800/Orange mids...

[retinal orbita]

Those do sound like options just right for me....

[Hacken]

The GGG Red Llama clone is really nice in a band, a bit fuzzy but with loads of output and mids! No getting lost in the mix at all.

[CBA]

A true bypass looper is a good suggestion.

You can put both your Muff and a sort of eq/boost pedal (Cleanness, etc.) right after it. That way you can turn both on at the same time via the one footswitch on the loop and don't have to fumble around or hit them with both feet.

Keep it up with the IC Muff. My favourite... don't lose it. I actually use a '78 V5 IC in my band and it does really well... it's only a three piece, but I've figured it out enough so it doesn't disappear.

C

[D.o.S.]

generally speaking, the better the tone sounds on your own, the worse it sounds with the band.

I HATE HATE HATE how true this is at times.

Yeah dude, it's one of the unspoken evils of pedal enthusiasts.

How much dirt are you talking, retinal?

[Seedy]

I'll jump on the EQ bandwagon. Finally got a new band and was dying to use my algal bloom in a band setting that would appreciate it, but it wasn't cutting through. Used the graphic eq on my M9 after the Bloom and it is blissful.
Added bonus, my clean sound also sounds better with the same eq setting so I don't have to tap two pedals off

[sylnau]

Mid boost before your fuzz.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iJRmER9pxE[/youtube]

[nieh]

tone bypass big muff

This. I did it to mine. Its a really easy mod. Gives you more mids and volume.