2020 Happenings! (BOSS Strikes Back)

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harpies wrote:Pedal are meant to be played, not collected. The exclusivity club is crap.
At the risk of getting into more arguments about this, I'll entertain this with a reply.

Ofcourse pedals are meant to be played, and that's what I do with all of the pedals in my collection. Anything I collect that has a use, I use it for that. I don't collect varying colors of things (though I have fell victim to buying different covers of a magazine for a favorite band or what not), I get what I want and I hold it to enjoy and use when I want. When I was younger and collected baseball cards, those had no use other than to collect. Comics, however, I would read (and no I wasn't super careful with them, I'd enjoy them, but save them and trade etc). I never bought bourbon to just look at, I drank it. It's a lot more fun sharing that stuff with your friends when each pour didn't cost you $100+ and people are really appreciative of you sharing something that would cost them $100+ for an ounce. Maybe you are not someone who has a pedal in your possession that is not on your board? But I am as are a significant number of musicians. I love playing and exploring new things and making different combinations and getting a chance to try out everything, but when something exclusive comes around, it's buy it now or hold your peace.

If you have a problem with exclusivity, then you have a problem with everyone who bought a Bliss Factory and every company who pulls this nonsense. All 1000 pedals sold based on the fact that it was supposed to be exclusive. Sometimes it isn't about being in the exclusivity club as much as being able to try something out in general. I tried out the Bliss Factory and I thought it was a pretty cool pedal...not $450 cool, but cool none-the-less. If it was in fact limited to 1000, I'd be more inclined to hang onto it, but after playing through it, I have better fuzzes that will stay on my board and won't tie up that kind of money in a pedal that I won't use all the time unless there is something really special about it. If you don't understand, that's fine...it's my disfunction, not yours...but it's these companies that make it to be as such and I feel the anger is misguided when it is aimed at the buyers (even those looking to make money off of it - we all knew it would happen based on the marketing campaign). At the end of the day no one NEEDS a pedal, let alone a Bliss Factory, to be creative. It's sad that so many people had to come out and cry saying that they can't be creative unless they got a Bliss Factory and wah they missed out on the "exclusive club". Just like I had to put on my big boy pants and accept that hey I've been swindled...so should all the people who snoozed and losed on the pedal. If anyone got to their computer at the onsale date/time, it was a layup to get the pedal. I think of all the Pladask and Drolo and etc releases that I've had ripped from my cart mid checkout when it was less than a minute after on-sale time and this was nothing like that. Those situations are always oh well, I missed out...time to move on, cause I won't pay the scalpers and frankly, those pedals can be inspiring but none of them are needed to be creative or make music.

If chase bliss REALLY was anti all of this, they'd do more gen loss or ayahuasca in a different color to squash those scalpers...but I wouldn't hold your breath. Also, the bliss factory still is limited and exclusive as the next batch won't happen any time in the immediate future. I just take issue with a company exploiting the limited market to sell a product and then almost immediately after selling out, they pull back the reason why it sold out so fast. I'd be curious to hear from anyone who bought the pedal and claims that they didn't buy the pedal because it was limited. Even those who waited 20/30 mins to watch the demos all acted within that hour and pretty made an impulse purchase...because if we all waited, we'd save on shipping and taxes.

If you want to think I'm the scum of the world because I have the collector bug and wanted a chance at trying a Bliss Factory, then oh well, I'm the scum of the world. :idk:

Not stirring the pot people but are you forgetting that most of the limited run stuff is usually collaborations with other pedal builders(I.E. Gen Loss/Cooper Fx and Bliss Factory/Zvex, Ayahuasca/?) with exceptions being Mood/Dark World :)
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Pretty sure Mood and Dark World were also collaborations (Drolo and Cooper/Keeley).
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cosmicevan wrote: I'd be curious to hear from anyone who bought the pedal and claims that they didn't buy the pedal because it was limited.
I bought one. Limited made me feel under the gun to act quickly. I knew what the pedal was gonna be, more or less, and it was something I knew I wanted without any thought of how many there would be. If it was a regular item I might have chilled until a Black Friday ‘21 sale. I dunno, limited convinced me not to wait for what I already wanted, so sort of? But it didn’t make me interested in a pedal I didn’t already want.
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echorec wrote: If anyone wants to be outraged over artificial hype and inflated prices for limited editions, then they should be bitching about Spaceman. Asking people to pay an extra $100 for boring colors like flat grey is so fucking ridiculous.
Just going back to this real quick: I think most people think CBA's offering are a bit more interesting than Spaceman stuff. Missing out on a ltd germanium fuzz or whatever isn't that big of a gutpunch (not that Spaceman doesn't make nice pedals).
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breakdown wrote:Pretty sure Mood and Dark World were also collaborations (Drolo and Cooper/Keeley).

Did you read my entire post?
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Making out that your lack of opportunity to procure the shiny thing is some sort of affront to trve musicians whose art would have been greatly enriched by the shiny thing (which most wouldn't look twice at were it not guaranteed to hold its value) is pretty absurd.
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To compare it to paint, say someone made a shade of a color and made it exclusive to a handful of potential buyers. Some of them will use it for what it is and be thankful for their easy access to that shade, others will buy it just to have it and enjoy the privilege of being one of only a few. People who didn’t get it can still paint. They can still get close to that trademarked hue, but they won’t have the advantages of that select hue™️.

I’m annoyed that a fuzz factory with presets and cv/exp control was a limited run item, and that some people bought it mainly because they wanted the privilege of owning something exclusive. Will that prevent me from making similarly fuzzed out noises, no. When they start their general run I will definitely be picking one up.
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i didn't see anyone say that they can't make art without this pedal? but also, i think it is frustrating when collectors stop objects from being used for their intended purpose. kind of like when non-musician rich people buy steinway grand pianos as a living room decorations (even if they're the reason steinway can stay afloat, it still annoys me). but it's also partly frustrating that's because of the reputation it creates. the collectability of vintage guitars keeps getting crazier, and i can't help but think it reinforces the idea that people need something that's built exactly like a 60s les paul to make good music (when in reality you can stick a vaguelly-paf pickup in any block of wood, and it'll sound right with a bit of distortion).
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I got my Bliss Factory yesterday. I love the pedal, and it helped me remember what made me love the fuzz factory for so long before it was replaced with a bunch of newer and shinier fuzz. But the melodrama and moralizing surrounding the whole thing is still super absurd to me. I don't care that Chase Bliss is going to make more of them at all. I just think it's lame to try moralize and lay all the blame on "flippers." Chase Bliss is a business. They made a bunch of money really fast. Now they want to make more money really fast. Nothing will convince me that making more is just some noble altruistic effort to stop "flippers."
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cosmicevan wrote:
Toropicana wrote:There's probably gonna be new EQDxDBA in the making too.
Doubt that. EQD simply wrote "no" when people asked. Kinda like what CBA should have done.
Pretty sure I saw an Instagram post where Jamie from EQD was floating a continued run and inviting feedback.
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Cody_Pole wrote:
breakdown wrote:Pretty sure Mood and Dark World were also collaborations (Drolo and Cooper/Keeley).

Did you read my entire post?
Yes, just reread it like 5 times to finally understand what you were saying, ie. mood and dark world are exceptions because they are not limited runs, not because they are not collaborations. Sorry for the misunderstanding... :/

Anyway... any news on that new Boss Waza FZ-2? ;)
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breakdown wrote:
Cody_Pole wrote:
breakdown wrote:Pretty sure Mood and Dark World were also collaborations (Drolo and Cooper/Keeley).

Did you read my entire post?
Yes, just reread it like 5 times to finally understand what you were saying, ie. mood and dark world are exceptions because they are not limited runs, not because they are not collaborations. Sorry for the misunderstanding... :/

Anyway... any news on that new Boss Waza FZ-2? ;)
I'm glad you explained that because I was really confused
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MrNovember wrote:
breakdown wrote:
Cody_Pole wrote:
breakdown wrote:Pretty sure Mood and Dark World were also collaborations (Drolo and Cooper/Keeley).

Did you read my entire post?
Yes, just reread it like 5 times to finally understand what you were saying, ie. mood and dark world are exceptions because they are not limited runs, not because they are not collaborations. Sorry for the misunderstanding... :/

Anyway... any news on that new Boss Waza FZ-2? ;)
I'm glad you explained that because I was really confused

For what it’s worth, I picked that up the first read? :idk:

I hope that teaser’s a Boss Waza FZ-2.
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01010111 wrote:
MrNovember wrote:
breakdown wrote:
Cody_Pole wrote:
breakdown wrote:Pretty sure Mood and Dark World were also collaborations (Drolo and Cooper/Keeley).

Did you read my entire post?
Yes, just reread it like 5 times to finally understand what you were saying, ie. mood and dark world are exceptions because they are not limited runs, not because they are not collaborations. Sorry for the misunderstanding... :/

Anyway... any news on that new Boss Waza FZ-2? ;)
I'm glad you explained that because I was really confused

For what it’s worth, I picked that up the first read? :idk:

I hope that teaser’s a Boss Waza FZ-2.
Weird how different people interpret things differently. Actually, now that I type that, it doesn't seem weird at all :idk:
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