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Re: Industry insiders claim JHS Pedals are cloning...Devi Ev
Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:15 pm
by trad3mark
devi ever wrote:bob the r0bot wrote:ohsojayadeva wrote:Christopher wrote:didn't devi just put out a retardedly expensive clone of two pedals in one box?
Actually, it's not really the same thing. Devi has not, at any point, attempted to deny that the circuits that make up the Silver Rose are clones.
They are also out of production.
It begs the question... if Electro Harmonix ever decided to dip its wick into the enormously lucrative boutique market by say... releasing a Stomp Under Foot style retrospective on its Big Muff circuits... would everyone back down?
Probably not... I think there's a bit of a public domain aspect even the most ardent of "ethical" cloners feel comes into play after so many years of a circuit being out of production.
On that note, has there been any companies beyond MXR and Ibanez who have tried to cash in on the "vintage spec" boutique market?
I was about to say I'm a little surprised EH hasn't ever gone that route... but then again they seem to be more about moving forward and keeping things cheap rather than looking back and trying to artificially inflate the value of their current line with boutique hype (Here's looking at you $400 Ibanez Tube Screamer re-issue).
Funny you should mention that devi. I'm a massive fan of the Muff circuit. I remember emailling EHX about the copyright on it a while ago. I got an email back from Mike himself, and he said "anyone can build whatever they like. They just can't call it a Big Muff."
He's not a man of many words, but it seems that it's the actual name of the pedal, ie "Big Muff" that's trademarked/copywritten.
I don't know if that changes anything, but there ya go.
Re: Industry insiders claim JHS Pedals are cloning...Devi Ev
Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:22 pm
by Gone Fission
Clean blend on the Silver Rose would have me very interested if I were a real bassist. The set of handy features on the box is a step above the typical boutique cloner nonsense. (Cough! Fulltone. Cough!) The idea of putting all that together in one is probably more original than at least 3/4 of what's out there.
Re: Industry insiders claim JHS Pedals are cloning...Devi Ev
Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:23 pm
by bubstance
trad3mark wrote:Sorry, I don't take comments about my grammar from Americants. Your country single handedly destroyed a beautiful language by doing retarded things like spelling the word cheque simpler, for your nation of simpletons.
Your efforts were fail. For example:
"Devi Ever FX has a pretty good name for themselves...." is perfectly correct, as Devi Ever FX is a registered company. I don't know if they have more than one employee.
This continues right through. So when your country learn a proper language, you can give me a shout.
Wow, way to be both a cock AND wrong. "Has" is singular and "themselves" is plural. If you had said "Devi Ever FX has a pretty good name for
itself" your comment would have been valid. Since Devi Ever FX is a registered company, it is being referred to in the singular ("has a pretty good...") but you mess that up with "themselves", implying multiplicity. Way to fuck up the beautiful language you seem so desperate to protect.
Asshole.
**EDIT** Also, way to use commas, stupid.
Your country single handedly destroyed a beautiful language by doing retarded things like spelling the word cheque simpler, for your nation of simpletons.
WOW, WAY TO KNOW THE LANGUAGE ASSHOLE.
Re: Industry insiders claim JHS Pedals are cloning...Devi Ev
Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:24 pm
by ohsojayadeva
Re: Industry insiders claim JHS Pedals are cloning...Devi Ev
Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:30 pm
by modernage
trad3mark wrote:Sorry, I don't take comments about my grammar from Americants. Your country single handedly destroyed a beautiful language by doing retarded things like spelling the word cheque simpler, for your nation of simpletons.
Your efforts were fail. For example:
"Devi Ever FX has a pretty good name for themselves...." is perfectly correct, as Devi Ever FX is a registered company. I don't know if they have more than one employee.
This continues right through. So when your country learn a proper language, you can give me a shout.
But you originally said "have"!!!!!!! The only reason I included the "/has" is because you also said "herself". These are rules not created by Americans.
I've had conversations with Irish people in my time, and you can't convince me that we're the only country to ruin the english language.
Re: Industry insiders claim JHS Pedals are cloning...Devi Ev
Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:37 pm
by StopReferencing
William Blake couldn't spell very well either.
Re: Industry insiders claim JHS Pedals are cloning...Devi Ev
Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:43 pm
by SPACERITUAL
Just what the fuck is going on here. Are people honestly devolving into grammatical bickering? This shit is so fucking boring ive no idea where to start. Although ill tell you one thing, Ill be one stone cold dead motherfucker the day the irish can down on my country....or maybe youd forgotten how many of you disgusting red-haired pieces of human garbage washed up on our shores during the great dumpster food famine or whatever it was????? No wonder your people have been recognized as complete refuse since day one, imagine the first roman soldier to have seen one of your repulsive visages......fuck i would have killed on sight...
SEE UNFOUNDED GEOCENTRIC PREJUDICE IS FUN ISNT IT.
All of you need to stop pussybleeding allover my forum.
Re: Industry insiders claim JHS Pedals are cloning...Devi Ev
Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:44 pm
by Achtane
This thread was already getting stupid but then some dude comes by and turns it into HURR AMERICANS R DUMB DURRRR
OH HOW I LOVE THE INTERNET
Re: Industry insiders claim JHS Pedals are cloning...Devi Ev
Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:46 pm
by SPACERITUAL
way off topic...
Re: Industry insiders claim JHS Pedals are cloning...Devi Ev
Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:48 pm
by Achtane
see post above
Re: Industry insiders claim JHS Pedals are cloning...Devi Ev
Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:49 pm
by bubstance
see post above...
Re: Industry insiders claim JHS Pedals are cloning...Devi Ev
Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:50 pm
by hbombgraphics
This all ignores the fact that you are negating an argument just because of spelling and grammar?
It makes perfect sense “If someone makes a spelling error everything else they say must be wrong”. This type of illogical thinking is obviously not limited by nationality.
Logic can’t be a strong suit though when you claim that someone has “ruined” something as subjective as language.
The thing that tweaks me personally about the JHS issue is that they went out of their way to defame another build, which really just makes them look even guiltier.
Spent too long typing...missed the topic Change:
I hate roast beef, it even smells rotten. Meat can't be good if it requires 14 toppings and sauces.
Re: Industry insiders claim JHS Pedals are cloning...Devi Ev
Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:54 pm
by BlindtoFaith
Achtane wrote:This thread was already getting stupid but then some dude comes by and turns it into HURR AMERICANS R DUMB DURRRR
OH HOW I LOVE THE INTERNET
Agreed
Re: Industry insiders claim JHS Pedals are cloning...Devi Ev
Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:27 pm
by proroby
SPACERITUAL wrote:Just what the fuck is going on here. Are people honestly devolving into grammatical bickering? This shit is so fucking boring ive no idea where to start. Although ill tell you one thing, Ill be one stone cold dead motherfucker the day the irish can down on my country....or maybe youd forgotten how many of you disgusting red-haired pieces of human garbage washed up on our shores during the great dumpster food famine or whatever it was????? No wonder your people have been recognized as complete refuse since day one, imagine the first roman soldier to have seen one of your repulsive visages......fuck i would have killed on sight...
SEE UNFOUNDED GEOCENTRIC PREJUDICE IS FUN ISNT IT.
All of you need to stop pussybleeding allover my forum.
There's nothing cool or funny about discrimination. As a proud redhead this is very uncool and ignorant. It's also not your forum, it's for the people who love fuzz. This thread was doomed from the get go, I do enjoy this change to roast beef. Roast beef is best when served with potatoes...
Re: Industry insiders claim JHS Pedals are cloning...Devi Ev
Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:32 pm
by Gearmond
can we change the channel, i'm fucking sick of the spaceritual show.
