short delay vs. long delay

[D.o.S.]

If it's short I just end up doing either Run Like Hell or One of these days so it pretty much has to be long.

[coldbrightsunlight]

How are you guys so sure of your MS? I just whip a knob somewhere and then adjust to taste.

Complete guesswork from thinking about delay times in terms of the DMM!! So I'm probably nowhere near the right actual numbers.

[tremolo3]

How are you guys so sure of your MS? I just whip a knob somewhere and then adjust to taste.

I count in MS.

[kbit]

I really enjoy analog delays at just a tad longer than slapback timing, with 2 or 3 repeats. Godspeed showed me the light.

I pretty much only use longer delays when doing drone. When the delay time is too long I always try to acclimate myself to a tempo set by the repeats, which I don't like for some reason.

[backwardsvoyager]

I really enjoy analog delays at just a tad longer than slapback timing, with 2 or 3 repeats. Godspeed showed me the light.

I pretty much only use longer delays when doing drone. When the delay time is too long I always try to acclimate myself to a tempo set by the repeats, which I don't like for some reason.

^ this is basically how i use delay too. playing guitar with anything over 400ms or so throws me off too much, it definitely sounds weird if you don't follow the tempo closely.
analog delays usually sound too murky once you get to longer delay times anyway, much fuller and nicer around that 100-300ms range.

[the_mexican]

It's all about that dd-20 on max time and infinite repeats.

[Ghost Hip]

Whatever my count to five tells me to do.

300-360ms is where I usually like. Otherwise I enjoy slapback. Either way I crank the repeats.

[neonblack]

Yeah, slapback with high repeats =

[kbit]

Oooo also super short digital delay used as a resonator. And long ping pong delays. I like both of those with high feedback for droning, too. There's magic in those repeats.

[rfurtkamp]

How are you guys so sure of your MS? I just whip a knob somewhere and then adjust to taste.

I know the Space Echo and its children by doing a lot of work on them, the factory settings in the repair manual, and then replicating same on devices that allow precise control.

Every delay I have but one analog allows for precise (worst is 5 ms adjust) calibration and control.

Wouldn't have it any other way.

[rustywire]

How are you guys so sure of your MS? I just whip a knob somewhere and then adjust to taste.

Complete guesswork from thinking about delay times in terms of the DMM!! So I'm probably nowhere near the right actual numbers.

An effective, if backwards method I've worked out for finding time on your analog delay can be done in any DAW that allows clicks/tones generation, if you cant set up a metronome by ms units. That's the easiest way, adjust your Delay/Time knob until the repeats and metronome align, and mark the setting on the pedal. Otherwise you can Generate a click track with (333ms for example) as the time. If your DAW doesn't have ms, you can use maths/online converters.

http://musiccalculator.com/#convert-bpm

So a 180bpm click track in 4/4 can provide the 333ms template. Gotta train your ear, get your timing tight, and play with them enough until burnt in your memory and you can dial-in by sound/feel.

Edit: Then you can track your delayed signal to DAW and confirm if the repeats are spaced where you want, using a china marker etc on the pedal to jump between settings and then fine-tune on the fly. It aint full logic controlled presets...but there's logic involved

[goroth]

Just stop watch 10 repeats and divide the number by 10.
Or record into a DAW and measure the time between peaks.

[Chankgeez]

I think I'm gonna see if I can get Rain Man to count my delay times for me.

[goroth]

246 toothpicks.

[Chankgeez]

Hey, what works with toothpicks probably works with milliseconds too.