can you split the 8 step into multiple pedals?

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can you split the 8 step into multiple pedals?

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not sure if you can do this yet, but can you hook up the ehx 8 step to like a splitter box so it can control multiple pedals?
I think there's one to do that with just an expression pedal, which I guess it's the same thing yeah with more controls?
are there any ILF options to do this?
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Try a mixer (not a good one just a cheapy) or a buffered splitter? Or get one of those CV splitters like on the Moog CP-251 or any one of the dozens of eurorack ones. Quite common in the modular world.

Try just running the cord out and get some alligator clips to jumper it to two other cords (for the things you are controlling) to see if it has enough power. I've jumped CV signals off pedals like that before when prototyping.

If you just need the trigger, try clockworks.
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cool ideas, thanks man
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If it's CV out you could get a multi mixer like the CP-251, but I'm sure some here can make a cheaper one...

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As you likely won't be controlling things that require precise voltages (like oscillators), you probably won't notice any potential voltage drop if you use a non-buffered multiple. So you just need a passive mult, i.e. several jacks connected to each other.

If you use minijacks, the Intellijel Hub is a very nice little thing that does just that (connect 4 jacks together in a nice and small enclosure).

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If you use 6.35mm jacks then just get a few jack splitters and connect them to each other. Be sure to get ones that are only mono and not ones that split a stereo signal in 2 mono ones, though. You want one with one black line on the jack, not two.

I.e. get the first one of these and not the second :

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I used to use these to multiply signals on my Korg MS10/MS20 ages ago, it works very well...
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Copilot Fx makes so,etching like that.
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Yeah, Copilot FX makes 2 different splitters depending on your needs. If you email him and tell him exactly what you want to accomplish he will let you know if his solutions will work. I am talking to him right now about a customized Bandwith/Broadcast hybrid with a mixer section for each output.

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Once again, if you don't need to adjust the range or anything, just get one of the splitters I mentioned above. They're very cheap and they work. If for some reason this is not enough, then consider spending more money on something else.
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If you DIY, you can make one just sticking a bunch of TRS jacks in a box and connecting all the Ts, Rs, and Ss.
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i don't think this is possible just by splitting. you're sending a resistance across a line, i would imagine if you split it between two jacks, it would halve the resistance.

edit: this is why products like the mission expressionator exist
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adapt wrote:i don't think this is possible just by splitting. you're sending a resistance across a line, i would imagine if you split it between two jacks, it would halve the resistance.

edit: this is why products like the mission expressionator exist
That was my thinking as well...or at least you wouldn't get the full range. That is why I suggested just testing with jumpers to just see how it works.

I know with a passive mixer, each added input divides the output of each channel. It probablt depends on a lot of things, but mostly how much power that 8-step actually pushes. Not entirely sure though. The copilot stuff is a good idea though.
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cools, all good ideas to try
guess nobody here has done it yet
always a first for something
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adapt wrote:i don't think this is possible just by splitting. you're sending a resistance across a line, i would imagine if you split it between two jacks, it would halve the resistance.

edit: this is why products like the mission expressionator exist
It is and it works all the time in modular synths. You're sending voltages, not resistances.
There might be a small voltage drop if the output is not buffered and depending on how the inputs of the pedals are designed but that should not be an issue with something like this.

Seriously, this has been done for decades...
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CV yes, EXP no

you're using a treadle with a pot in it with any expression pedal
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