Shifting pitches

[neonblack]

Lol glass Joe

I've been curious about the boss pitch shifters actually. A buddy used a ps-something in our old band as like his main sound with distortion and it was gnarly.

[Dandolin]

I did like what I heard from the PS-6. I had a PS-2 once--wasn't "real" but it was classic--loved setting the feedback high on a 2d, 4th or 5th interval shift up.

Now I have an 8Ts Boss Mini-Rack RPS-10--it is lofi great--actually not as lofi as PS-2 but...unique....and good wonky fun.

I'm selling my HOG because I just don't use it so much as I did in this one band. To me the HOG is great at least as much for it's non-pitch shifting features as for all the shiftiness....

There is not one of them that doesn't make my teeth grate on higher interval shifts, though, and I read once why that is. But I couldn't explain it to somebody else. Seems to be the most insurmountable problem in effectdom, though, getting upper partials in tune in pitch shifters. I'd rather the tuning issue be so obvious and wonky it seems intentional--thus the RPS-10....

I got all excited for a minute, thought I'd get a Pitch Fork to mess around with using cv input to set up arpeggi. Then I listened to some demos and Not for me. Actually thought the Micro Pog octave up really did sound significantly better than the Fork, but still I'm gonna sit out the pitch shift saga for a while; wait and see, wait and see.

Although, I am in on the latest CT5 preorder and I like the way it kisses the fifths and octaves, so there'll be that.

Overall though, much prefer to shift down. I'm a slowrider....

[Dandolin]

So, question: are the pitch shifters in sub-3 hundo multifx really all equally shitty, or is an RP360 better than a GT001 better than an MS70/100 (or what have you/whatever order suits you)? But let's leave the H9 out of this comparison; that ain't happenin'.

[Warpsmasher]

I wouldn't call any of them shitty anymore. The Boss & Digitech both have the latest droptune, whammy and harmony algorithms, which have been improving a lot lately, along with the amp and cab models (which I like way more in the Digitech). Both also have LFO control for any parameter, which you can't do with Strymon/Eventide/TC pedals. Obviously you get more cool powers with the Boss, but for around $100 the RP360 still gives you so much more than any single effect pedal, and most old rack shifters, with the latest algos, some new stuff, and lots of cool extras. It also has the advantage of calibrating to any expression or volume pedal, where the Boss takes a boss-compatible exp or footswitch only. So another thing to consider if you're looking at both is, would you be using exp or footswitch more for the footcontrol stuff. You can only plug one or the other in at once, unless you get an RP360XP, then you can add a footswitch or a second expression pedal. The Boss is much better for footswitch stuff as it has the Accel effects, which can serve as an extra pitch shifting block if you want it. Haven't found a need for footswitch with the Digitech yet, but an expression pedal is vital. I'm currently without a boss-compatible expression pedal, and I really want a MS100BT, but it may have to wait until after I get a Source Audio Reflex.

Stuff I like better in the GT-001:
Phaser - does a better bi-phase, and goes into step mode on all models
Slicer - best trem ever. The RP360 has the Scatter Trem, which is similar to the Modfactor Undulator, but with LFO, the Slicer beats everything.
Delay and reverb - both go 100% wet, so as an effects loop based reverb or delay it is more powerful and tweakable than anything else ever
Footswitchable momentary noise burst heaven - Accel effect on A and something else on B is like having a pair of noise guns, loaded with different ammo on every preset.

Stuff I like better in the RP360:
Cooler software, virtual pedalboards with some very fucking cool pedals
Better amp models, just way nicer choices throughout the lineup
Better dirt pedals. WAY better. It's not even close.
Filters - step filter, vocal filter, vocal synth, filter flange, etc.
Less complicated, easier to finish presets faster

The RP360 has a great virtual pedal and amp collection, with one assignable LFO to auto-twist one knob per preset. Lots of quality sounds that don't need a lot of messing with.
The Boss is basically giving you more control over more effects, and multiple LFOs means mega-animated layers that can be like extra deep super algorithms unto themselves.
Either one is enough to cop a pretty good amount of Pitchfactor tricks, and they both do glitch delays.

[Warpsmasher]

Accel S-bend is also the deepest dive bomb at -3 octaves up to +4, and Accel has it's own dedicated block in the chain, so you still have 3 other blocks that can be used for consecutive pitch effects (FX1, FX2 and Pedal Bend), plus dedicated chorus, delay and reverb blocks. That's pretty far past the Pitchfactor's scope...plus there's all the awesome dual amp and panning stuff.

[Dandolin]

Man you are ultrautilizing those multiboxes! It's inspiring.

[weed_killer]

I can't stand the sound of most pitch shifting pedals, though in a lot of cases it's a combination of the sound and the way it's being used. GB24/CT5 are the only two I've ever really enjoyed and made use of.

[Gone Fission]

Both [GT-001 and RP360] also have LFO control for any parameter, which you can't do with Strymon/Eventide/TC pedals.

. . . but it may have to wait until after I get a Source Audio Reflex.

I'm thinking the Reflex could be huge for the Eclipse with its LFO engine. In the meantime, I'm starting to experiment with an app called midiLFOs, which has four tweakable lfos with various selectable waveforms that you can have modulate each other while each can output to separate MIDI channels, I still need a better grip on the Eclipse to start with, but the two are kinda crazy together. What I need to figure out things to modulate that I can't do natively in the algorithm--again, I need a better grip on the Eclipse.

[ChetMagongalo]

I can't stand the sound of most pitch shifting pedals, though in a lot of cases it's a combination of the sound and the way it's being used. GB24/CT5 are the only two I've ever really enjoyed and made use of.

same, I always found them too cheesy sounding if they weren't stacked with another pedal