MIDI WTF

[askashrub]

I have MIDI questions.

I'm looking to control some guitar pedals via MIDI, and I am far from an expert.
I need beat clock out, but I would also love CC# out and I can't seem to find it anywhere and it makes me think I'm insane and I have no idea what I'm doing

Am I?

[trace]

What are the devices you want to use? Some gear has much better midi implementation than others. For example, most any drum machine will send midi tempo out and probably some Note-on messages for the drums but not many will send out CC's. The E-Mu command station and Yamaha Rm1x are two that I know can send out CC messages.

[askashrub]

The E-Mu command station and Yamaha Rm1x are two that I know can send out CC messages.

Oh baby.
Those are some hefty units.

I'm definitely looking for something simpler, but you've confirmed my fears concerning CC#.
Not a deal-breaker, just a shame.

I'm looking to control one of the new Chase Bliss pedals with MIDI.
You can use CC#' 's to control any of the knobs on the unit, I was hoping to sync that with a drum beat and get weird.

[lordgalvar]

I used to use one of those cheap beringer midi pedals with like 8 switches and a footpedal to control my adrenalinn. It worked fairly well.

http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/FCB1010.aspx Like that

[rfurtkamp]

I'm not sure the terms you're using are telling us much (or that they're correct).

As mentioned, tell us what you're using and what you're trying to do.

[askashrub]

I'm not sure the terms you're using are telling us much (or that they're correct).

Extremely possible.

I'll be controlling a Chase Bliss pedal via MIDI by using an Empress Midibox to convert MIDI to TRS:
http://chaseblissaudio.com/store/#!/Cha ... category=0

So, I'm looking for a controller that sends MIDI messages in a pre-set sequence.
I realize that this may be impossible.

I'm a little fuzzy on the whole concept (I've only ever used MIDI for VST).

Maybe a good resource to get a better understanding of what's possible should be my next step

[trace]

Looking at this http://chaseblissaudio.com/midi-spec/
it looks like they will sync to MIDI tempo in the same way they would sync to a tapped tempo. Any drum machine/sequencer with a MIDI out port should do this for you.
The rest of the functions look like you will need a device which you can program specific CC's with. So yeah, you're going to need a pretty full-featured sequencer (or a computer and software) to sequence those kind of messages into a pattern.

[rfurtkamp]

Yea, you're trying to do full-on control (not just "here's program 12, go!" or "program 13, adjust parameter 57, +53!" that most floor controllers do).

I am not a CV guy so no idea how well if at all that particular converter interfaces with *anything*.

[sonidero]

Arturia Beatstep will do what you want...

[tremolo3]

I used to use one of those cheap beringer midi pedals with like 8 switches and a footpedal to control my adrenalinn. It worked fairly well.

http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/FCB1010.aspx Like that

I think this will cover most of your needs.

I got a Liquid Foot Mini a few days ago and the thing is overwhelming, but fun.

[askashrub]

Arturia Beatstep will do what you want...

That's intriguing.

And I can send these MIDI messages straight from the Arturia to the pedal?
(And I would program this on the computer?)

In general, I don't think a floor controller is the way to go for me.
(UNLESS THERE'S A SEQUENCER AND FLOOR CONTROLLER IN ONE?!)

[askashrub]

I used to use one of those cheap beringer midi pedals with like 8 switches and a footpedal to control my adrenalinn. It worked fairly well.

http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/FCB1010.aspx Like that

I think this will cover most of your needs.

I got a Liquid Foot Mini a few days ago and the thing is overwhelming, but fun.

How do you program something like that, and is it able to change CC#?

[fever606]

Since we're throwing out every option, the Moog MP-201 will do what you want... Tap tempo to MIDI clock and MIDI CC controllable either by the internal LFO(s) or the treadle... Discontinued and not cheap, but extremely versatile...

[tremolo3]

I used to use one of those cheap beringer midi pedals with like 8 switches and a footpedal to control my adrenalinn. It worked fairly well.

http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/FCB1010.aspx Like that

I think this will cover most of your needs.

I got a Liquid Foot Mini a few days ago and the thing is overwhelming, but fun.

How do you program something like that, and is it able to change CC#?

With patience. And absolutely, it is able to do complex things like sending up to 20 different commands (CCs, PCs, Sysex, etc) with 1 single tap.
Do a double tap on the same switch and it will send 20 different commands.

[askashrub]

I used to use one of those cheap beringer midi pedals with like 8 switches and a footpedal to control my adrenalinn. It worked fairly well.

http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/FCB1010.aspx Like that

I think this will cover most of your needs.

I got a Liquid Foot Mini a few days ago and the thing is overwhelming, but fun.

How do you program something like that, and is it able to change CC#?

With patience. And absolutely, it is able to do complex things like sending up to 20 different commands (CCs, PCs, Sysex, etc) with 1 single tap.
Do a double tap on the same switch and it will send 20 different commands.

Holy butts.
That sounds amazing and horrifying.

How limited is the Behringer by comparison?

Since we're throwing out every option, the Moog MP-201 will do what you want... Tap tempo to MIDI clock and MIDI CC controllable either by the internal LFO(s) or the treadle... Discontinued and not cheap, but extremely versatile...

That looks amazing.