red panda particle vs raster

[tuj]

what do you guys think of particle vs ct5.; do they cover too much of the same ground? especially if I have a ring-mod in my setup already?

[Uncle Grandfather]

what do you guys think of particle vs ct5.; do they cover too much of the same ground? especially if I have a ring-mod in my setup already?

Completely different beasts. Get them both

[resincum]

what do you guys think of particle vs ct5.; do they cover too much of the same ground? especially if I have a ring-mod in my setup already?

Completely different beasts. Get them both

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[UglyCasanova]

what do you guys think of particle vs ct5.; do they cover too much of the same ground? especially if I have a ring-mod in my setup already?

Completely different beasts. Get them both

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This.

[Tristan]

I'd say forget about the Particle, any other glitch pedal, Count To Five, Judder, Possessed, Revolver II is just better in my opinion.
Maybe they can fix it in version 2, give the parameter and chop knobs more musical / useable range and not make it drop in volume too much on the more extreme settings, then put the freeze function on a second footswitch (why didn't they do that?) and if they're going to do pitch do it right or otherwise remove those modes altogether.

[Dandolin]

Well I guess I'm gonna be in for a treat when CT5 batch 2 drops. I'm pretty sure Big Metal Judder'll be gone by the time I can come up wit da cheddah. Gotdamm springtime on the farm. Dose others? Distant dreams....

Still, can't say I'm unhappy with ma Particle-may be sentimentality, maybe it's because mines has the prototype/v. 1/pre-mass- production/pre-order-price-so-nice-I-can't-say-no mojeaux toan.

And secchsy as that black ghost finish is, I like my gray primer scratch-through paint job....

[UglyCasanova]

Tristan: your ears are not set up right. The pitch on my Particle is spot on and very much musical. Are you sure you're not mixing it up with the wrongly calibrated Rasters? I agree with you on the freeze knob to footswitch conversion though. Makes more sense.

[resincum]

the particle is my favorite "glitch" pedal that I have tried so far. the compression is a real bummer, but it is perfect for table top use. not so much for a set and forget kind of thing. the pitch was definitely off with mine, but I loved that and thought it was supposed to sound like that if you're looking for a pitch shifting delay, I'd try a raster or go with the ct5. if you want to get crazy with knob tweaking mangling glitches in between, get a particle. be warned though, if you plan to use it with your dirt it will have to go before so there's no squash or loss in volume. the possessed is also fucking awesome with no squash or loss in volume, but sounds a lot more harsh to me. it's kind of like 56k dial up in a pedal. I prefer to find a sweet spot and let my dynamics do the work rather than finger bang that one. they are all awesome in their own ways

[Tristan]

Tristan: your ears are not set up right. The pitch on my Particle is spot on and very much musical. Are you sure you're not mixing it up with the wrongly calibrated Rasters? I agree with you on the freeze knob to footswitch conversion though. Makes more sense.

Nah man, it warbles like fuck and I hate it, you have a Count To Five right, don't tell me you don't hear a difference in the pitch shifting between that and the Particle.
I'm crazy though, sometimes I help producer friends of mine finetune samples in micro percentages (smaller than a quart or eight tone) just because they're a little off.
To put things in perspective, the EHX POG style pedals sound off to me too, not as bad as the Red Panda stuff but still, well, to each their own I guess.
Don't mean to bash on the Particle but apart from whether you can get along with the pitch shifting or not (I'm for one am sure as hell not going to get near the Raster) some other things about it also don't seem to be that well thought out.

[UglyCasanova]

Shit. Seems like it's my ears that are off, then. Hmmm, my bad. I think it sounds really good. Ct5 sounds pretty cool too, but I use the looper function mostly, anyways.

[Tristan]

You got it.
A mechanical out of tune robot organ (also in octave settings), that's what I would call it, I'm glad I got rid of it.
I mean, a delay with ringmod or a true glitch pedal like the Count To Five / Judder / Possessed / Revolver II just seems way more useful to me.

No worries about ears that are off, it's a matter of taste I guess, you can either stand the warble or not.
For instance the pitch mode on the BitQuest has a bit of warble too but I can stand it better than the Red Panda or EHX stuff though it still sounds a little off / the pitch isn't completely constant.

[Dandolin]

Yeah, not so much into the pitch stuff on the Particle--that's what turns me on about the Ct5. But there's a lot of stuff on there I really like in terms of subtle random sounding stuff. It's harder to tweak it to where I like than most pedals, but when I find a sweet spot it's lurve, lurve, lurve. But there are also plenty of ways to adjust it that sound like complete shit, and not in a good way. Ct5 sounds likes it's almost all sweetspot, and I wants it bad. Judder too.

Particle reminds me of the Geiger Counter in that way, another pedal that requires lots of patience and frustrates the hell out of some musicians, but one that has enough sweetness among the Dude, WTF, that I'll probs keep it forever.

Also, I don't care that the Particle sounds crap after dirt; for me using it with dirt doesn't even really compute. I'm always looking to use it with a relatively clean sound, and I never run aground thinking, "this sucks, I wish there were more ways to use this thing."

I will say, that I flurglin' lurve out of tune organ. It's pretty much the only kind of organ I have any patience with.

Glitch love in excelsis!

[eti]

I've played both particle and raster and it's easier to find more musically useful sounds with the raster. Not to say it can't get weird; it can. Not to say the particle isn't musically useful; it certainly is. Overall, though, the raster is simpler to use, and still quite versatile. I would use it for flanger/chorus/phaser/leslie/univibe-like sounds, subtle pitch shifting, reverse guitar, funky tones that I haven't heard in other pedals yet, weird kraftwerk/sci-fi sound effects, and the classic pitch-shifting delay sounds I've been into for quite some time. Some of that is covered by the particle, but it has a different character.

The raster demos out there have yet to show its full scope.