Seppuku FX

[UglyCasanova]

Not at all. I get where you're coming from. But pedals I've posted guts of are mostly no longer in production (Digitizer, Fuzz Overloader, OctaveDrone), or they've gotten updates (Digital Water -> ICWater, Mind Warp -> Mind Warp with dual LFO's). IOW, Expired pedals that were made in limited quantities. I don't see the problem of sharing those.

edit: I love my KK, but I don't see how you can say its less predictable than the ML or that the ML has low-end artifacts (that might be a question of what version you've got).

[Pepe]

Please don't get it the wrong way what I wrote about Seppuku FX. Yes, to me it's some kind of amazing and incredible that pedals that cost more than 300 bucks have so little components inside to justify the price. And yes, some of these pedals have been cheaper last year and even cheaper a few years ago when I first stumbled upon Seppuku FX while browsing the effectsdatabase. If you have enough demand and people are willing to pay that - well, that's how it always worked for centuries. And still I'd love to get my hands on a decent shaped Octave Drone and a Mind Warp with the fractal graphics. And maybe the Fuzz Overloader, Spacefuzz and Acid Fuzz... And I'd love to get the original models. I'm not after schematics and gut shots to make my own clones. And I doubt that I will ever buy a clone of a Seppuku pedal one day that another guy made. The problem I have is that the reputation of Seppuku effects (the pedals get slowly more and more popular as I can see it) might go downhill if Rhys goes on like that. Today he added a new pedal:


dlfo, 327 AU$ - and yes, UG, it's available.

At least Rhys rotated the swastika-like symbol so that it now looks like a stick figure with raised hands and ultra-long genitals. But I would never ever spend so much money for such a terrible looking device that looks like a first DIY project of someone who has no sense for aesthetics. My first action was to rehouse it or to do a proper paint job. It really sets me up that he ditched the cool Japanese-'50s-scifi-movie-style and the S E P P U K U logo. His corporate identity philosophy has been so much better till last year. His prices go up, the electric components don't change and the look gets worse and worse... If he doesn't change back to his great style, then he has definitely lost a customer. So far I will only be on the hunt for used (no, I cannot afford new Seppuku pedals - I can buy decent synthesizers for those prices!) Seppuku FX pedals that pre-date the year 2015.

Sorry, Rhys! I just don't get it. I love your pedals, but ... there are things that I just cannot support.

[Uncle Grandfather]

I liked his older aesthetic better too, but I kinda like the new "top mount" layout and robot bug logo. I really could care less what they look like when they sound so original and unique. I would still go through the whole ordeal to get one of his pll synths if he would ever answer my email and take my money. I don't think there is a risk of being ripped off, just have to wait until its time I guess. I would probably ask him if he minded if I shared detailed gutshots of his current lineup, cause I think he deserves the business regardless of how I fell about about how he seems to be mishandling it...although I thinkive posted some gutshots anyways

Btw I think that new mind warp looks pretty awesome with that layout. Could always send the case to laowiz

[Jwar]

Ok so as I pointed out earlier somewhere. the swastika orientation does make a difference for what it's worth. The meanings are different and the symbol is used in many, many religions. Here's just one site for reference http://www.ancient-origins.net/myths-le ... ory-001312

Now I do not think he should use that symbol or any likeness if he has half a fucking brain, but that's just my opinion. I wouldn't touch that shit EVER. Regardless of it's multiple meanings.

[Jwar]

I liked his older aesthetic better too, but I kinda like the new "top mount" layout and robot bug logo. I really could care less what they look like when they sound so original and unique. I would still go through the whole ordeal to get one of his pll synths if he would ever answer my email and take my money. I don't think there is a risk of being ripped off, just have to wait until its time I guess. I would probably ask him if he minded if I shared detailed gutshots of his current lineup, cause I think he deserves the business regardless of how I fell about about how he seems to be mishandling it...although I thinkive posted some gutshots anyways

Btw I think that new mind warp looks pretty awesome with that layout. Could always send the case to laowiz

I wanted to touch on this too because his stuff was really good when I tried it in 2012. But, I have not had a desire to try anything else because of how scarce it was and because of the huge jump in price. For that kind of money I would expect that shit to be flawless looking on the inside and out. People bitch around here about paying 150 for a fucking fuzz pedal but they'll gladly pay 400 for some over glorified delay. Doesn't make any sense.

Oh and as for the rehousing, same as above. I would be fucking livid if I got a pedal that costs as much as this crap does and feel like I needed to rehouse it. Fuck that. Unless you're just some wacko that rehouses everything COUGH Behndy COUGH. LOL

[D.o.S.]

I think of them as one of those cool builders that were briefly listed on Fuzzhugger when I was too broke to be buying things from Fuzzhugger.

[Jwar]

I think of them as one of those cool builders that were briefly listed on Fuzzhugger when I was too broke to be buying things from Fuzzhugger.

Me too but when I bought one of those off of Fuzzhugger you better believe that shit didn't cost what it does now!!! LOL And it was a special edition one.

[Jwar]

He's from Australia!!! hahahahaha I didn't ever know that.

Ok now my brain hurts.

[Uncle Grandfather]

Oh and as for the rehousing, same as above. I would be fucking livid if I got a pedal that costs as much as this crap does and feel like I needed to rehouse it. Fuck that. Unless you're just some wacko that rehouses everything COUGH Behndy COUGH. LOL

Yeah actually i don't mind the look and think the new doublelfo mind warp is pretty boss as it is, in fact i'd rather the logo was back the other way looking like a space alien...to me, and i'm going to try and order one if they are still available when I get back from the bank today i was really addressing Pepe's pining for the old japanese sci-fi look, which i think laowiz does a great job of in his own way.

On the one hand I'm really into builders who do impeccable build jobs like creepy fingers etc. and they are priced at a pretty serious point, but what really matters is how the pedal sounds. And I'm into builders who have reputations of building great replica's like jerms etc. and am wililng to pay their premium to play.

To me the seppuku builds look like something I might manage to put together, and that's not a compliment but I don't care because nobody else is making pedals that sounds like these. All his delays based on the pt2399 chip which do amazing things just blow my mind and fill me with inspiration, and i'm willing to pay for that too.

[UglyCasanova]

Awww, they're already gone. My wallet thanks thee, buyers!

[tabbycat]

am in two minds about the new seppuku control and jack layouts.



part of me (the moogy part into all things early 70s analog synth) really likes the jack sockets face up like that. looks like a classic patch-cable moog or banana-cable ens synth (or the eurorack synth modules analog synth-heads still rave over). i think i might try it on my next diy build to see how i get on with it. for a change.

my reservations about it are that a synthy way of arranging things suits eurorack and moogs because they are table or vertically mounted and controls are adjusted with fingers not feet. in that context controls and jack sockets can get away with being so close to each other. but am not sure i'd want knobs and stomp switches so close on a badly-lit stage floor.



seppuku's pots look like good-enough basic cheap steel-shaft jobs, which may bend but probably not snap like the plastic ones (unless you really stamp on them). so snapping shafts not a major liability. the issue really being more that if you are trying to press down on a stop and you've got a couple of control knobs under your feet at the same time, that stomp switch is not going to go down and you are going to miss your mark. that's why i keep pot and stomp switches far apart anyway.
if jack sockets are side-mounted that allows all the controls to go up inch and gives the stompee far more boot clearance. ergonomic thing. but from an aesthetic rather than practical perspective i think i know where ug might be coming from when he says he likes the sockets like that, and i have to say i like it too.

re the use of the swastika (a lucky symbol in various eastern religions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika), that could be coming from a few different directions; cheap attention-seeking, an attempt to reassign it more positive connotations, or an attempt to dilute its threat value through banal over-exposure in contexts it can have no plausible threat value.
i think the british punks of the seventies put that one to bed years ago. the smarter ones (i think it came from mclaren, westwood and reid, the original culture jammers) were coming at it from all three directions at once, and never saying which, much to the infuriation of the british media. the thicker punks just saw the shock potential and thought it an easy attention-button to press (lots of their parents would have fought in ww2). but it was being used in all three ways at the time.

personally speaking, i'd like to see it so over-exposed and commonplace that it either becomes as meaningless and unthreatening as the converse star or a 'parking' sign. or entirely revalued for the lucky symbol it still is among the more postive cultures that still use it. liberate it and reassign it a new value free of the gas chamber associations. maybe there should be a swastika emoticon on ilf that people can use for any random meaning we can think to reassign to it. do our bit to revalue it. it's all dependent on what value you or your culture chooses to give it. which you can go with or against.
i suspect seppuku is using it in all the three ways i listed above, and a few more besides. just like he uses his PT2399s. what he does with the swastika as a graphic motif reflects what he does with his PT2399s in a circuit context. corrupt, disrupt, invert, pervert...

so even though his soldering may border on the side of 'crimes against humanity' i strongly doubt his graphics are inspired by the same level of misanthropy.

[Pepe]

Awww, they're already gone. My wallet thanks thee, buyers!

Maybe it wasn't really abvailable since we know that Rhys seems to have trouble with his website. Obvious trouble.

[UglyCasanova]

Intentional trouble, haha! I saw them for sale on my phone, but when I sat down in front of the computer to order they were sold out. Boo!

[D.o.S.]

am in two minds about the new seppuku control and jack layouts.



part of me (the moogy part into all things early 70s analog synth) really likes the jack sockets face up like that. looks like a classic patch-cable moog or banana-cable ens synth (or the eurorack synth modules analog synth-heads still rave over). i think i might try it on my next diy build to see how i get on with it. for a change.

my reservations about it are that a synthy way of arranging things suits eurorack and moogs because they are table or vertically mounted and controls are adjusted with fingers not feet. in that context controls and jack sockets can get away with being so close to each other. but am not sure i'd want knobs and stomp switches so close on a badly-lit stage floor.



seppuku's pots look like good-enough basic cheap steel-shaft jobs, which may bend but probably not snap like the plastic ones (unless you really stamp on them). so snapping shafts not a major liability. the issue really being more that if you are trying to press down on a stop and you've got a couple of control knobs under your feet at the same time, that stomp switch is not going to go down and you are going to miss your mark. that's why i keep pot and stomp switches far apart anyway.
if jack sockets are side-mounted that allows all the controls to go up inch and gives the stompee far more boot clearance. ergonomic thing. but from an aesthetic rather than practical perspective i think i know where ug might be coming from when he says he likes the sockets like that, and i have to say i like it too.

re the use of the swastika (a lucky symbol in various eastern religions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika), that could be coming from a few different directions; cheap attention-seeking, an attempt to reassign it more positive connotations, or an attempt to dilute its threat value through banal over-exposure in contexts it can have no plausible threat value.
i think the british punks of the seventies put that one to bed years ago. the smarter ones (i think it came from mclaren, westwood and reid, the original culture jammers) were coming at it from all three directions at once, and never saying which, much to the infuriation of the british media. the thicker punks just saw the shock potential and thought it an easy attention-button to press (lots of their parents would have fought in ww2). but it was being used in all three ways at the time.

personally speaking, i'd like to see it so over-exposed and commonplace that it either becomes as meaningless and unthreatening as the converse star or a 'parking' sign. or entirely revalued for the lucky symbol it still is among the more postive cultures that still use it. liberate it and reassign it a new value free of the gas chamber associations. maybe there should be a swastika emoticon on ilf that people can use for any random meaning we can think to reassign to it. do our bit to revalue it. it's all dependent on what value you or your culture chooses to give it. which you can go with or against.
i suspect seppuku is using it in all the three ways i listed above, and a few more besides. just like he uses his PT2399s. what he does with the swastika as a graphic motif reflects what he does with his PT2399s in a circuit context. corrupt, disrupt, invert, pervert...

so even though his soldering may border on the side of 'crimes against humanity' i strongly doubt his graphics are inspired by the same level of misanthropy.

I wonder how many of those punks went Paki bashing bedecked in their appropriated swastika garb?

[BoatRich]

am in two minds about the new seppuku control and jack layouts.



part of me (the moogy part into all things early 70s analog synth) really likes the jack sockets face up like that. looks like a classic patch-cable moog or banana-cable ens synth (or the eurorack synth modules analog synth-heads still rave over). i think i might try it on my next diy build to see how i get on with it. for a change.

my reservations about it are that a synthy way of arranging things suits eurorack and moogs because they are table or vertically mounted and controls are adjusted with fingers not feet. in that context controls and jack sockets can get away with being so close to each other. but am not sure i'd want knobs and stomp switches so close on a badly-lit stage floor.



seppuku's pots look like good-enough basic cheap steel-shaft jobs, which may bend but probably not snap like the plastic ones (unless you really stamp on them). so snapping shafts not a major liability. the issue really being more that if you are trying to press down on a stop and you've got a couple of control knobs under your feet at the same time, that stomp switch is not going to go down and you are going to miss your mark. that's why i keep pot and stomp switches far apart anyway.
if jack sockets are side-mounted that allows all the controls to go up inch and gives the stompee far more boot clearance. ergonomic thing. but from an aesthetic rather than practical perspective i think i know where ug might be coming from when he says he likes the sockets like that, and i have to say i like it too.

re the use of the swastika (a lucky symbol in various eastern religions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika), that could be coming from a few different directions; cheap attention-seeking, an attempt to reassign it more positive connotations, or an attempt to dilute its threat value through banal over-exposure in contexts it can have no plausible threat value.
i think the british punks of the seventies put that one to bed years ago. the smarter ones (i think it came from mclaren, westwood and reid, the original culture jammers) were coming at it from all three directions at once, and never saying which, much to the infuriation of the british media. the thicker punks just saw the shock potential and thought it an easy attention-button to press (lots of their parents would have fought in ww2). but it was being used in all three ways at the time.

personally speaking, i'd like to see it so over-exposed and commonplace that it either becomes as meaningless and unthreatening as the converse star or a 'parking' sign. or entirely revalued for the lucky symbol it still is among the more postive cultures that still use it. liberate it and reassign it a new value free of the gas chamber associations. maybe there should be a swastika emoticon on ilf that people can use for any random meaning we can think to reassign to it. do our bit to revalue it. it's all dependent on what value you or your culture chooses to give it. which you can go with or against.
i suspect seppuku is using it in all the three ways i listed above, and a few more besides. just like he uses his PT2399s. what he does with the swastika as a graphic motif reflects what he does with his PT2399s in a circuit context. corrupt, disrupt, invert, pervert...

so even though his soldering may border on the side of 'crimes against humanity' i strongly doubt his graphics are inspired by the same level of misanthropy.

I wonder how many of those punks went Paki bashing bedecked in their appropriated swastika garb?

Yeah... Whether or not it is a religious symbol it has a very specific context outside of those cultures and using two of them as your logo is not okay.