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Get the new boss mega big thing. RFK has the tabletop version and raves about it. Damn it, that dude has given me so much gas for stuff I dont want haha
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Yea, the Boss GT-100/001 (latter is the tabletop, no FS version, but you can run an external FS-6 etc if you desire) is flat out stupid good.

All the first run of the Boss MDP pedals (Tera Echo, Overtone, etc), 3 simultaneous delays available, 2 signal chains, a partridge in a pear tree, obscene routing and automation options, robust computer editor (and doesn't require it at all either).

I could *almost* function with just it.
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rfurtkamp wrote:Yea, the Boss GT-100/001 (latter is the tabletop, no FS version, but you can run an external FS-6 etc if you desire) is flat out stupid good.

All the first run of the Boss MDP pedals (Tera Echo, Overtone, etc), 3 simultaneous delays available, 2 signal chains, a partridge in a pear tree, obscene routing and automation options, robust computer editor (and doesn't require it at all either).

I could *almost* function with just it.
Can arrange the effects in any order you choose or is there a set order?
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I have an old Korg Ax1000g multi-fx unit that I still love and use. It's probably about 15 years old now. I run it through a feedback looper. Also I use it for the modulation and delays verbs. Has quite a few weird patches in it that sound absolutely crazy through the feedback loop.
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Zoom ms50g is pretty rad
Considering getting the delay/verb zoom as well
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Now I wish I never sold my old korg Ax3000g. It was my entry to the pedal world, and I basically had no clue how to use it. It had a few nice patches and wierd stuff that you can't really find in other pedals. As I remember it, you could set up the expression pedal to control volume and the arpeggiator-speed, but maybe it was any parameter you wanted to. And you could not stack delays IIRC, but other than that it was a lot if fun
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rfurtkamp wrote:Yea, the Boss GT-100/001 (latter is the tabletop, no FS version, but you can run an external FS-6 etc if you desire) is flat out stupid good.

All the first run of the Boss MDP pedals (Tera Echo, Overtone, etc), 3 simultaneous delays available, 2 signal chains, a partridge in a pear tree, obscene routing and automation options, robust computer editor (and doesn't require it at all either).

I could *almost* function with just it.
Can arrange the effects in any order you choose or is there a set order?
Any order. Two discrete chains. Can filter signal to chains by envelope strength, pan, equal, mixer, etc. as well. GT100 has a mono FX loop that's moveable as well (which is why I'm considering getting one of those as well). There are only two you cannot move - the two amp sims are each in their own chain (can be the same, turned off/etc).

Speaker sims and amp sims are stupid customizeable and usable as well, and totally disableable.

The switchable order is a standard on any of the modern stuff - even the lowly Fender Mustang can do that (and I love mine still for what it is and a few patches I've been using now for 3+ years).

Also there's no "out of CPU" ever - I've maxed *Everything* just to see if I could and it didn't care.

There are subpresets in each effect type for typical examples and starting points on stuff - a lot of the time I can just use those and go if I'm pressed for time or an idea or just want "gimme a slow flange, Beavis!"

At any given time (all on possible):
- Wah or volume pedal, including various models and options on the wah. If GT-001 you need an expression pedal (which sadly disables the ability to use a FS-6 but you can also assign it to *anything*, including multiple parameters or part of the sweep to different things, etc. 100 supports additional expression pedals as well past the built-in.
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- OD/Dist (includes some fuzz models that are serviceable if not memorable, they're not embarassing but they're very, very normal). Has a 'design your own distortion' option that has a good amount of depth as well even if it too ends up in "musically useful" category almost fulltime. Includes the "Adaptive Distortion" pedal which is $150ish on its own which is stupid good for VI and some other uses.
- Pair of Noise gates (which are fairly good and not signal-destroying)
- Pair of amp sims/cab sims/mic options. Includes custom cab design (with reason but you can do some wacky shit) and mic placement options. You're not stuck with the factory speaker/cab options on anything if you don't want to even if they sound decent.
- Dedicated chorus (additional chorus is available in the FX1/2 areas) including spot on Dimension, JC and other settings.
- EQ section (beyond the EQ in each amp sim)
- Reverb (up to 10s, includes reverse, modulated, etc with fairly deep options)
- Delay (dedicated, can get additional subdelays in the FX1/2 areas). Includes multitap, reverse, pan, parallel, series, tape, analog, etc. Up to 2 seconds, EQ/high cut, various options
- "Accel" which is basically special effect stuff including the feedbacker and other things you might step on on a momentary-type basis. Some of these effects are also available in clones/additional versions in the FX1/2 section. Includes ringmod, pitchbend, warp, lazerbeam shit, spaceman effects etc.
- FX1: Copies of a lot of the other effects (sub delay is yet another delay, as an example, sub chorus same stuff). Slow gear, sitar sim, defretter, 'SC to bucker/reverse' EQ, mono synth, pitch shifter, intelligent harmonizer, faux acoustic guitar processor, phase, flange, trem, rotary ( couple types, with many suboptions, can assign ramp speed etc to switches as well), fake (acceptable) Univibe, pan, the infamous Boss Slicer, ring mod (various types), humanizer type vocalizing effect, autowah, additional distortion/chorus etc.
- FX2: Tera Echo/Overtone/the MDP stuff, everything in FX1.

Basically, this is the kitchen damn sink in ridiculous chains.
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It's also worth noting that RTF is the reason no one can buy these for disgustingly cheap prices anymore.

Dude brings the hype like there's no tomorrow. I don't even rack and I want one.
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This isn't a rack unit. I'd love it if it was. GT100 is a floorboard, GT001 is a tabletop processor (cheaper due to lack of switches, road-worthy housing, same exact signal capacity except the analog fx loop, patches are interchangeable).

Should add that the units do acceptable (if not perfect compared to my GR55) guitar to MIDI as well out over the USB (and surprisingly doesn't disable the onboard effects when you do it or the analog signal). It's monophonic but it worked well enough with a few Mellotron softsynths I tested it with.
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rfurtkamp wrote: At any given time (all on possible):
- If GT-001 you need an expression pedal (which sadly disables the ability to use a FS-6 but you can also assign it to *anything*, including multiple parameters or part of the sweep to different things, etc. 100 supports additional expression pedals as well past the built-in.
Basically, this is the kitchen damn sink in ridiculous chains.
So you can set the expression pedal to control aspects of a few different effects all at the same time?
Like tremolo rate and delay time? Or... all the other things I can't even think up right now?
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Yea, or have internal LFOs automate stuff, or make anything envelope controlled.
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Digitech GNX-3, Adrenalinn II on the floor, and Boss GT-PRO, and ART SGX-2000 in the rack.

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rfurtkamp wrote:This isn't a rack unit. I'd love it if it was. GT100 is a floorboard, GT001 is a tabletop processor (cheaper due to lack of switches, road-worthy housing, same exact signal capacity except the analog fx loop, patches are interchangeable).

Should add that the units do acceptable (if not perfect compared to my GR55) guitar to MIDI as well out over the USB (and surprisingly doesn't disable the onboard effects when you do it or the analog signal). It's monophonic but it worked well enough with a few Mellotron softsynths I tested it with.
Whoops misread it: I thought we were talking about the GL-100. I really need some sleep.
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I've been using the boss gt10 for a while now. I put all the dirt in the effects loop and use it mostly for all the modulation effects. I love it very tweakable. I have heard the newer ones are better, but it works fine for me.
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I really like the Line 6 M13, most of the effects sound fine to me, maybe the dirt is a little boring but most people here would be using other fuzz anyway. 4 effects can be on at one time with 12 total spread across all the stomps for easy access, expression pedals can be set up to control multiple parameters on one or more effects, super versatile. Presets ("scenes") are super easy to set up and save/recall quickly, decent looper (same as DL4), modulation and delays can sync to tap tempo and MIDI.
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