Tips to downsize my board?

[frigid midget]

I'll keep the case/board around in case (pun not int.) I want to go big again, but even though I replaced a slightly smaller board with this one not too long ago, I kinda found out that I'm not putting the extra pedals to good use. Dismanteled the board, but threw everything on again for a quick pic. Here's what I wanna go to:

-Bye bye Phaser. At least untill I find something similar with a more present, bigger deeper 'swoosh'. But I could get by phaser less and live happily ever after.
-Replace the Mastotron and Fuzz God II with one gnarly sick fuzz that'll do both hairy gritty single notes as well as chords. Something with lots of low end, not too much fizz, and it has to cut through a loud mix like it's nobody's business.
-I'm digging the Afterneath, and the delay combo too. Though if anyone knows of a version of the DL-8 that has top mounted jacks, or at least a smaller footprint, I'd like to hear about it.
-Pretty obvious and not really relevant, but in order to get away with a super convenient small board, I'd move the a/b box and channel switcher offboard.
-If I should run out of space on the new tiny board: Anything out there like the CE-2 that has top mounted jacks? Hotcake: Same question.

Anyone got any tips, for any/all of these 3rd world problems?

[skullservant]

Was gonna say if you moved the ABY and footswitch off board that would save you what looks to be about 6" on the board

[neonblack]

Have you tried the TAFM? You could probably replace both Fuzzes with that one. Especially cause you can set the fuzz wherever you want, and when you hit the gate switch, it cranks the fuzz to max. And it works with chords and single notes too.

As far as chorus goes, Polytope if you could find/afford it, or that new minifooger chorus looks pretty rad.

[frigid midget]

Have you tried the TAFM? You could probably replace both Fuzzes with that one. Especially cause you can set the fuzz wherever you want, and when you hit the gate switch, it cranks the fuzz to max. And it works with chords and single notes too.

As far as chorus goes, Polytope if you could find/afford it, or that new minifooger chorus looks pretty rad.

I don't mind spending a lil extra on something like fuzz or delay if I have to, but the reason I went with the CE-2, apart from the fact that it sound great obviously: It's simple, no frills, and it's cheap. I'm not a big chorus user, so I don't want to spend too much on a chorus pedal.

Can't say I ever heard a TAFM in action, you maybe know where I can'd find a clip/demo? All I could find so far was recorded with a phone or camera, which kinda makes everything sound like a ds-1 to me

[neonblack]

Guitar Demo: http://youtu.be/CEFoYUUjaOQ

Bass Demo:
http://youtu.be/BKN-aLF0oBM

[frigid midget]

Guitar Demo: http://youtu.be/CEFoYUUjaOQ

Bass Demo:
http://youtu.be/BKN-aLF0oBM

Yeah, right after I posted that I found those clips, as well as a couple others...

I typo'd my last youtube search and ended up with a bunch of TAMF results lol

Sounds good so far, even trough my macbook's speakers, but I'll grab some headphones in a minute.

[doommeow]

Re:hotcake. Doesn't the Mtl.asm Positive have top jacks?

Chorus. Mooer Ensemble King is supposedly a CE-2 clone, with the same chip - presumably the Donner is as well, for half the price. Obviously not top mounted jacks, but the result will be significantly narrower than what you have now.

[frigid midget]

Re:hotcake. Doesn't the Mtl.asm Positive have top jacks?

Chorus. Mooer Ensemble King is supposedly a CE-2 clone, with the same chip - presumably the Donner is as well, for half the price. Obviously not top mounted jacks, but the result will be significantly narrower than what you have now.

Not sure if I want to replace my precious CE-2 with a chinese clone that's $20 cheaper :s
I know it's what I was asking, but now I'm thinking it might've been a stupid question

Mtl. asm Positive: Had no idea of it's existance. Too bad it lacks the tone control. From what I heard the vintage 2-knob hotcakes are either too dark are too shrill, thanks to the toggle switch. Also: I can't seem to find out for sure wether the jacks are indeed top mounted or not :s
They look nice,and the price is okay too I guess. Are they even still available though?

[rustywire]

Step 1: eliminate sonic overlap. This typically means pushing the limits of what you wind up keeping, and developing new techniques.
I've never had the FUZZGOD or Hyper Fuzz...but from my understanding...isn't there considerable overlap between them?

Which do you use the most, and where in the signal chain? Which one can cover the most ground of the other's sounds...and sounds better/does more to your preference?

[frigid midget]

Was gonna say if you moved the ABY and footswitch off board that would save you what looks to be about 6" on the board

Exactly. And if I don't stop there, I could probably fit everything on a board that's about half the size as the one I've got now.

[lordgalvar]

Mtl. asm Positive: Had no idea of it's existance. Too bad it lacks the tone control. From what I heard the vintage 2-knob hotcakes are either too dark are too shrill, thanks to the toggle switch. Also: I can't seem to find out for sure wether the jacks are indeed top mounted or not :s
They look nice,and the price is okay too I guess. Are they even still available though?

I ordered mine with the CT5, but I am still on the waiting list. They were still around in Feb.

[kbit]

Id second the TAFM rec, you can keep it mid gain gate off for chords then kick on the gate for single notes. Also it does really well with verb/delay running into it.

[weed_killer]

Mtl. asm Positive: Had no idea of it's existance. Too bad it lacks the tone control. From what I heard the vintage 2-knob hotcakes are either too dark are too shrill, thanks to the toggle switch. Also: I can't seem to find out for sure wether the jacks are indeed top mounted or not :s
They look nice,and the price is okay too I guess. Are they even still available though?

I ordered mine with the CT5, but I am still on the waiting list. They were still around in Feb.

I dunno if Scott's still making more. I got one when he first listed them, and I thought it was really good. Maybe a bit dark but definitely not shrill. The jacks are top-mounted.

[braaandooon]

Not sure how much you value an oscillating delay but could probably replace your es2 and chorus with a ibanez dml 10/20. Top mount jacks, and the added ability of having a decent flanger and all the other weird shit they can do. Dml 10 for the win if you dig massive sweep in your modulation.

[frigid midget]

Step 1: eliminate sonic overlap. This typically means pushing the limits of what you wind up keeping, and developing new techniques.
I've never had the FUZZGOD or Hyper Fuzz...but from my understanding...isn't there considerable overlap between them?

Which do you use the most, and where in the signal chain? Which one can cover the most ground of the other's sounds...and sounds better/does more to your preference?

Already decided on sacrifising the FGII actually, but not really cause of the overlap with the FZ-2. The FGII is a velcro/osscillation silicon fuzz, the FZ-2 is like scrambly superfuzz on steroids.

As far as dirt goes, I rely on my amp's distortion channel a lot. I tried replacing the FZ-2 a couple of times the last decade or so, thinking there's got to be a more boutique alternative that does the same thing, only maybe better. But the FZ-2 isn't going anywhere.

There's more overlap between the mastotron and the Fuzz God II, but neither are really working for me.

The Hotcake sounds great with the right settings and the right amp. For what I use it, for how I use it...it's perfect. But if there's somekind of clone out there with top jacks and an okay price tag, I'm all ears. I could easily get by with just one other fuzz pedal, and though I'm not sure yet how I want it to sound, I am pretty sure I'll love it if it's a bit different from the FZ-2, has tons of gain, and doesn't lack low or dissapear in a mix like your typica big muff type circuit. So my amp's dirt channel, a distortion pedal, and two fuzz pedals...Should give me all the combinations and flavores I want and really use from time to time, and not a lot more.