Yall were right and I really wanted a digital delay with adjustable repeats rather than a looper. But now I have more questions.
I got a DD20 for long a stereo repeats / quasi looping and I like that it doesn't self oscillate, however i don't really dig all the modes and im always looking for thing to be compact. I have a DD7 for doing things similar but it self oscillates with the repeats maxed.
What compact digital delays have stereo ping pong repeats and doesn't self oscillate?
Playing the el Capistan's sound on sound mode, I've come to appreciate the ability to have older layers of a loop fade away with time. I know the DL4's looper does this as it's set around 80% regen or something, but are there any other loop pedals y'all know of that are capable of doing this?
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yeah i remember that being the case too. otherwise i can't think of others besides the DL4 and El Cap. El Cap definitely has more control in that area but won't get clean like the Dl4.
a delay would technically be more appropriate for this than a looper but the downfall is you'd be setting the loop length before you start playing rather than being able to end it at any time. depends how it's being used i guess.
You're looking for loopers that are designed as delays first and not as phrase samplers.
The Boss DD20 is perfect for that (just use the delay modes with 100% feedback and specify the loop length in ms or use tap tempo, no need for the SOS mode that's not that good on this pedal).
The Boomerang III has this feature. There's a Decay knob that will accomplish what you're asking for (I think) when you're overdubbing a loop. From the manual:
Decay Knob
Decay rate is the rate at which older parts fade out when new parts are stacked on a loop. Zero on the Clock Display means NO decay - all parts remain at the volume they were recorded regardless of how many times you stack new parts. As the decay value increases, the earlier parts of your loop fade more quickly when a new part is added to your loop (stacking). When set to 10, stacking a part will completely replace the original.
I tend to leave mine set to 0, but sometimes I'll set it to use as a delay pedal for funzies,
I can attest that the SMMwH will also do this. Man, I need to get another one of those.
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backwardsvoyager wrote:
a delay would technically be more appropriate for this than a looper but the downfall is you'd be setting the loop length before you start playing rather than being able to end it at any time. depends how it's being used i guess.
yeah the ability to choose the length is basically the upside of it being a looper rathet than just a delay but I could probably learn a delay well enough to estimate time.
I was just listening to some music last night that was almost centered around this kind of looping so I was just curious.
oscillateur wrote:You're looking for loopers that are designed as delays first and not as phrase samplers.
The Boss DD20 is perfect for that (just use the delay modes with 100% feedback and specify the loop length in ms or use tap tempo, no need for the SOS mode that's not that good on this pedal).
I know you can get 20 seconds of delay from the DD20 but can you use the tap tempo for something that long?
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oscillateur wrote:You're looking for loopers that are designed as delays first and not as phrase samplers.
The Boss DD20 is perfect for that (just use the delay modes with 100% feedback and specify the loop length in ms or use tap tempo, no need for the SOS mode that's not that good on this pedal).
yea! this is exactly why i bought a DD20. super long delay times that u can set by BPM, so u can do like 4 bars type shit.
and yea u can use the tap tempo for like super slow BPMs. theres just prob more wiggle room for the tempo to fall in.
The DD20 is seriously my favourite effect pedal ever.
Excellent delay, excellent looper (just set the feedback to 100% anytime and you're looping), lots of small nice features and I can sync it to my modular easily. One very nice thing with it is that when you change your preset/delay type, the previous one keeps repeating/decaying (but you have no control over its parameters anymore). If it was set to 100% feedback, you basically get another track in the background (that'll get cut whenever you switch to yet another preset/delay type, obviously).
Looooong repeat delays are the best loopers. I used to do that with the Headrush and it was amazing for dro))ne shit, specially on "tape" mode.
I still don't get why the Timeline and Timefactor are not able to have a delay time longer than shame ~3 secs...
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ramonovski wrote:Looooong repeat delays are the best loopers. I used to do that with the Headrush and it was amazing for dro))ne shit, specially on "tape" mode.
I was coming in to mention Headrush for sound-on-sound like this. Beautiful stuff.
I think Hardwire Delay could probably manage this, too, though I haven't hunted for that specifically yet--wrapped up on more of a sample-and-hold usage right now with the repeats fully cranked.
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