Help me pick a fliter

[leaves turn]

I miss my Microsynth. I sold it for so cheap too

[Chankgeez]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WF1Nbuxr12A[/youtube]

[Joe Gress]

Have you tried any of the Qtrons from EHX?

I had a qtron+ for years and years, sold it cause I needed money and I moved in a different direction than filters. If I EVER needed one again, it's the first I'd pick up. The effects loop on it was fucking great too!

[backwardsvoyager]

FM4 absolutely kills before dirt, it covers up a lot of the digital-ness if that's not your thing
replace those switches and etch that shit

[coldbrightsunlight]

Gigahearts' pedals are excellent, I've got a meatball and it's by far the best filter I've ever tried, I'd recommend that.

[Tristan]

One thing that isn't quite clear to me is whether you're looking for an envelope filter or a sweep filter (e.g. like a wah but then you can connect your own expression pedal / threadle to it).
To be honest, for the heavy distortion and fuzz yanking I prefer a sweep Lowpass Filter, especially on bass you need a Lowpass Filter I think and most envelope filters just don't have the right response, most of the times they're too slow or the decay is too abrupt or it just goes all over the place after you played your initial note.
The problem I think is mainly in getting the sound to be deep enough to get this thumb and fat synthy woosh yet still get it to retain and respond to the actual note you play without much bullshit if you don't want it.
To be able to do that you need to set an envelope filter up to work with the distortion or fuzz you want to combine it with, which makes it unusable for clean / funk / whatever passages.
My advice thus is to get two different pedals, one simple sweep Lowpass Filter and one simple Lowpass Envelope Filter or two different simple Lowpass Envelope Filters depending on what you want and set them both up differently.

[Tristan]

A list of filters that might be good:
3 Leaf Audio Proton, Wonderlove
Aguilar Filter Twin
Black Cat Mona Deluxe Vintage Wah
Dreadbox Epsilon, Lamda
Dwarfcraft Devices Attack Release Filter, Gears
Frostwave Funk A Duck, The Resonator
Gigahearts FX Meatball
Henretta Engineering Big Zapper
Ian Marks Meatball
Maxon AF-9
Moog MF Drive
Mu-FX Tru-Tron 3X
Robot Factory Brain Freeze
Sonuus Wahoo
Wilson Freaker Wah

[Dark Barn]

There is a (discontinued) Guyatone Ultron in the TB classifieds that might still be available for $200. I have never used one, but I've always wanted to have a go with one. It's pretty big, like Fayes Her big, which is a minus, but it has a very comprehensive feature set. No idea how it sounds.

Another one I'd love to hit is the Sonuus Wahoo, barely under your budget, but also does everything. Also really huge.

For expression sweeps you can't beat the Xerograph imo, unless you need band pass sweeps. I'm surprised you don't dig it.

I know you said you didn't jive with the Groove Regulator but the Wonderlove does have expression sweeps, I don't think the GR did. Maybe worth a revisit if you liked the sound but not the feature set.

Finally, like a few people have said, the Moog is a good one.

[Derelict78]

I thought you had a wahoo jwar.
Have you tried any of the filter algorithms on your H9?

[retinal orbita]

Are there any suggested that gel with active pickups?

I roll with an Ibanez BTB6 and had a Q-Tron but it never seemed to work as well as I wanted it to. I'm kind of debating a subdecay, a more modern Q-Tron, maybe a bass micro synth, if it could do some funky sounds?

[Jwar]

There is a (discontinued) Guyatone Ultron in the TB classifieds that might still be available for $200. I have never used one, but I've always wanted to have a go with one. It's pretty big, like Fayes Her big, which is a minus, but it has a very comprehensive feature set. No idea how it sounds.

Another one I'd love to hit is the Sonuus Wahoo, barely under your budget, but also does everything. Also really huge.

For expression sweeps you can't beat the Xerograph imo, unless you need band pass sweeps. I'm surprised you don't dig it.

I know you said you didn't jive with the Groove Regulator but the Wonderlove does have expression sweeps, I don't think the GR did. Maybe worth a revisit if you liked the sound but not the feature set.

Finally, like a few people have said, the Moog is a good one.

The Ultron sounds badass dude!!! Just listened to Kayzer's demo. It's not exactly what I want though.




THe Wahoo really, really interests me as well.

The Xero, not sure why I don't jive with it. It seems to me that Iron Ether pedals are hit or miss for me. It's nice but I just don't get everything I want out of it. I can't put my finger on it.

Wonderlove is intriguing minus the guy that sells them. I'm not sure I'll buy a pedal from that company ever again, but that's another story for another day.



SO I want something fat, with no quacking (that's super fucking annoying), low amount of hiss or at least usable without a fucking hiss, sweepable with expression, easy to use without a shit tone of controls, and works well with fuzz/dirt.

So right now I'm looking at the TWA Little Dipper. Anyone tried that?

Also interested in the Brain Freeze, but not real sure.

The Moog is winning as far as overall tone though.

[Dark Barn]

I want to hear your beef with 3Leaf. He sure has a cult following on TB.

[bigchiefbc]

SO I want something fat, with no quacking (that's super fucking annoying), low amount of hiss or at least usable without a fucking hiss, sweepable with expression, easy to use without a shit tone of controls, and works well with fuzz/dirt.

So right now I'm looking at the TWA Little Dipper. Anyone tried that?

The Little Dipper is a formant filter though, so you're gonna get that weird Bassballs "EE-OWW" vocal sweep. It's a unique sound, but not a standard filter sweep.

The Moog is winning as far as overall tone though.

The Moog is an amazing sounding filter. That and the BMS are really the only two filters I've ever really liked.

[Jwar]

"Tristan-A list of filters that might be good:
3 Leaf Audio Proton, Wonderlove (no 3Leaf although the Wonderlove does sound good)
Aguilar Filter Twin (this actually sounds pretty fucking good, no expression though? Fucking shit)
Black Cat Mona Deluxe Vintage Wah (meh lol)
Dreadbox Epsilon, Lamda (interested in the Epsilion but the Lamda has that horrible hiss that makes me want to shoot myself)
Dwarfcraft Devices Attack Release Filter, Gears (hard want)
Frostwave Funk A Duck, The Resonator (I wish, hard as shit to find
Gigahearts FX Meatball (too many knobs)
Henretta Engineering Big Zapper (this sound ok, but I do want a least a few tweakable knobs)
Ian Marks Meatball (what is this? LOL)
Maxon AF-9
Moog MF Drive (looks hot)
Mu-FX Tru-Tron 3X (this thing sound badass)
Robot Factory Brain Freeze (sound great)
Sonuus Wahoo (gives me a woody but I wonder how hard to use it is? I DUMB)
Wilson Freaker Wah (it's aight)


I love the suggestions guys!! Thanks so much.

[Jwar]

I want to hear your beef with 3Leaf. He sure has a cult following on TB.

No personal beef. I'm just friends with Doug from Darkglass. I can't really say more. It's not in good taste.


I might just get the Moog and be done.