Adding modulation to delay

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Adding modulation to delay

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So I own two delay pedals, a DD6 and an 80s dod fx90. Love them both for their opposite sounds/functions. However, I've been craving some modulated delay, like that found with the DMM or the black fountain.

Would adding a vibrato pedal to the chain be the solution to getting these kinds of modulation(s) to my delay(s)?
What other kinds of effects could be added to get cool modulations?
Where in the chain relative to delay should/could different pedals be placed to get such, or other cool, modulations?
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You'd need an fx chain in your delay to do that, actually. If you place it in your main signal it will affect, the delay and dry signal equally, thus depriving you of what you want.

Try the malekko 616 ekko for a good, cheap modulated delay. :)
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Re: Adding modulation to delay

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Vibrato after delay would probably get you something close and interesting.
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DIY out of the question? 1776 has a mod add on board that works with most pt2399 delays.
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Can dial in the Black Fountain demo almost perfectly with a cutoff in the 6k range and a faux univibe before the delay in one of my multis.

I suspect a straight chorus/vibe before will get you what you're looking for (and be cheap and steer you towards what you *might* be lacking in that combo).

Or if you're inclined, just do something like the TC Flashback - as much as I hate the one preset only thing, it'll get you modulated delay and a variety of stuffs.
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Inconuucl wrote:Try the malekko 616 ekko for a good, cheap modulated delay. :)
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rfurtkamp wrote:Or if you're inclined, just do something like the TC Flashback - as much as I hate the one preset only thing, it'll get you modulated delay and a variety of stuffs.
I second TC Flashback. They even let you mess around with functions not represented by the knobs via software.

Also, tap tempo without a second button.

Also, kill dry and trails on/off dipswitches.
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Re: Adding modulation to delay

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Thank you all! I've definitely got some thinking to do.

Id rather not go the tc route. I had a trinity verb from them and found it to be incredibly fake-sounding.
Has anyone done he 1776 mod? That seems pretty cool...but also something I would probably goof.

Right now I'm thinking about getting a memory boy with the fx loop and a vibrato pedal. Tap tempo, cheap, not limited to types of modulation all seem to make me think this is the best way to go. That plus one of those mooer mod pedals would fit the bill for under 200.
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Re: Adding modulation to delay

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Without getting a new delay, you can get similar sounds with a mod pedal. If you just want washy, chorus ish sound then its fine but it you're looking specifically for wobbly delay tails then you might need to switch delays :) For just washy tones, you can use a chorus, vibrato, any modulation pretty much even though those two are pretty vanilla. Even filters and whammy bars can do similar stuff with delay and reverb. And switch up order helps too
the deluxe memory boy already has some pretty extensive pitch modulation. I don't think a vibrato just for the fx loop would be worth the cost but that's just me.
I have a supa puss and I love that but if you're just looking for cool delay modulation, my favorite has been the Disaster Transport.
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Good suggestions abound, different ways to do it in absence of delay with FX loop, like Boss delays...
Modulation before delay will add movement as well as depth that's more dramatic, as it affects the dry signal independently of the wet, prior to affecting the wet signal.
Chorus before delay makes repeats bleed into each other a bit more, an extra layer of depth that tends to encourage oscillation with lower feedback settings compared to using no modulation.

Modulation after delay will add the same movement to both the dry and wet signals, together. Either way, subtle and intense settings will produce different results due to the signal chain's path. Try as many times as it takes to find something you like.
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Re: Adding modulation to delay

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I put a malekko vibrato after my boss rv3 and it sounds greeeeeat
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