how to use an envelope filter in a non-funk context
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how to use an envelope filter in a non-funk context
I accidentally bought a big-box mini q tron and Russian bassballs and i have no idea how to use them. Have any of you found any ways to use stuff like that without sounding like funk or a 70's porno?
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Re: how to use an envelope filter in a non-funk context
If you don't play funky rift, it won't sound funk. 
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Re: how to use an envelope filter in a non-funk context
Feed it into a distortion, it'll sound like a really crazy synth effect. Play volume swells into them and your swells will sound super weird and cool. Throw it into a true bypass loop with a reverb or delay with the Mix to 100% dry and you'll get some really interesting textural stuff going.
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Re: how to use an envelope filter in a non-funk context
Dude, funk and 70's porno rule.scienceman wrote:I accidentally bought a big-box mini q tron and Russian bassballs and i have no idea how to use them. Have any of you found any ways to use stuff like that without sounding like funk or a 70's porno?
Otherwise, try placing it creatively wrong for great signature sounds for songs. For example after fuzz and delay for rottengaze long notes. Or place it in feedback loop for pedalcore bat-shit crazy fun.

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Re: how to use an envelope filter in a non-funk context
Also, ring modulation and wah and envelope filter makes fantastic nonsensical backing sounds if You're at all into that.

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Re: how to use an envelope filter in a non-funk context
radiohead'd
watch the outro
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvtT0fzItYw[/youtube]
drive a tremolo into it
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tejkhFyjoGE[/youtube]
watch the outro
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvtT0fzItYw[/youtube]
drive a tremolo into it
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tejkhFyjoGE[/youtube]
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Re: how to use an envelope filter in a non-funk context
Ya I'll deffinently try screwing around with them and other pedals at the same time once I can get them on my board.
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Re: how to use an envelope filter in a non-funk context
Put it behind a brickwalled fuzz and it's suddenly reponds really well to dynamics, I do this with my Meatball. 
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Re: how to use an envelope filter in a non-funk context
I like fuzz > filter especially Unpleasant Surprise.
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Re: how to use an envelope filter in a non-funk context
Came in here to post greenwoodautopilot wrote:radiohead'd
watch the outro
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvtT0fzItYw[/youtube]
drive a tremolo into it
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tejkhFyjoGE[/youtube]
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Re: how to use an envelope filter in a non-funk context
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Re: how to use an envelope filter in a non-funk context
I use my AW7 both in front and after distortion. On bass
a) analog synth sound - octaver -> Fingerprint fuzz -> AW7 - self explanatory. Works great for volume swells (microsynthish), because the fuzz drives the filter hard and makes it controlable. I basically do use it as a microsynth emulation (but i can control which part of the sound is active at any given moment, so sort of modular...) inspired by Juan Alderete and such cats
b) before distortion - adds cool texture. Can accentuate the attact or make it sound really obnoxious - all depends on the settings. to me, the Bassballs are pretty obnoxious sounding, drive them into a DS-1 for some fucked up noise rock textures
just generally though - if you don'T play funk, it won't sound funk, as already mentioned. Make underwater sounds. One thing I really enjoy is playing my jazzmaster behind the bridge, especially the low notes, boost it and run it through the AW7 - it sounds like some underground beast waking up.
a) analog synth sound - octaver -> Fingerprint fuzz -> AW7 - self explanatory. Works great for volume swells (microsynthish), because the fuzz drives the filter hard and makes it controlable. I basically do use it as a microsynth emulation (but i can control which part of the sound is active at any given moment, so sort of modular...) inspired by Juan Alderete and such cats
b) before distortion - adds cool texture. Can accentuate the attact or make it sound really obnoxious - all depends on the settings. to me, the Bassballs are pretty obnoxious sounding, drive them into a DS-1 for some fucked up noise rock textures
just generally though - if you don'T play funk, it won't sound funk, as already mentioned. Make underwater sounds. One thing I really enjoy is playing my jazzmaster behind the bridge, especially the low notes, boost it and run it through the AW7 - it sounds like some underground beast waking up.
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Re: how to use an envelope filter in a non-funk context
Turn the bassballs distortion switch on into some fuzz and annoy the shit out of everyone around you.
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Re: how to use an envelope filter in a non-funk context
NO FUCKING WAY

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