Heavy string help

[scienceman]

I've noticed a lot of you play 12 gauge strings. I used to play a 12-56 set for a while an broke a string every week. I really like the feel and sounds of the 12s though. When I took the guitar to a tech for a setup he looked at me like I was crazy and told me I couldn't use those strings without the breaks. Do all of your strings break or have you found a way to make the setup work?

[friendship]

There's no reason I know if why the strings should be breaking more frequently unless the saddles are bad or the nut hasn't been cut to accommodate the gauge.

[skullservant]

Yeah, I was going to post that it seems more like a guitar issue than a string issue

[gunslinger_burrito]

There's no reason I know if why the strings should be breaking more frequently unless the saddles are bad or the nut hasn't been cut to accommodate the gauge.

Yeah, I was going to post that it seems more like a guitar issue than a string issue

Yes. ^^^^

Where does the string break? That might tell you if you have some edges or burrs on the saddles. I've tried to play as hard as possible with heavy strings, even tuned high enough to be really tense, and they've broke on me.

[scienceman]

The weird thing was that the string was snapping at about the 16 fret.

[Moose]

Is it the same string everytime?

Is it repeatedly breaking exactly the same place? (16th fret)

Does it happen when you do certain things in your playing (e.g. bends?)



If it's always breaking in the same place, it might be worth grabbing a magnifying glass and having a look at the area where it breaks. It's possible there's something on the back of a fret, or perhaps even on the fretboard itself (like a tiny dip or bump) that causes uneven wear/the string to catch slightly when playing.

At least from there, if you do find something you can take it to a tech and show him what you've found?



EDIT: I'd like to add that I don't personally use 12s, but my brother does and I setup his guitars because I enjoy doing it. His current 12s have been on there for over a month with no breakage as yet (tuned to CGCGCE mind).

[grygrx]

I've used 12s on my Jag and while I break a string from time to time, I think it's no more than my other guitars. I echo the other feelings expressed, more of a guitar issue... find a new tech.

[scienceman]

Ok thanks erybody

[wafl]

I use 13-56 tuned to c standard and have never had a break.
Tuning down might help as it will reduce the tension on the strings.

[Mudfuzz]

I agree with the pack. I have use 13's for standard and 16's for bari tuning for years.. [been using lighter string the last few years because of being lazy interms of fucking with custom sets.. really though if anyone knows a good source for a plain .029 let me know, there is no better sounding G] and the only time I have ever had strings break is from them rusting/giving out after having them on for over a year or two… on the other hand my friend Dan plays 13s on acoustic and breaks strings every night but he plays traditional blues and plays HARD

[PeteeBee]

Unrelated to the OP, but related to the thread title:

So I'm playing in a couple projects lately, and I only have one guitar. One project plays in E Standard, another mostly Drop D, another Drop C. I have been borrowing a guitar from the other guitar guy in the Drop C band but I would rather play my own because I like it more. Right now I'm all strung up with 10-46. Would you guys recommend a set of 12s to handle this range of tunings? Obviously E and Drop D isn't a big deal, but the Drop C sounds real bad with the 46. I'm thinking a set that starts with 11s but ends thicker than usual could get there.

My other question is if you guys would worry about adjusting the action between standard tuning and drop C. I've had people say that, but I couldn't tell if they were trying to make some money off me, if they are just more goofy about their rigs than me, or if they are right.

Any advice is totally appreciated!

[Mudfuzz]

action, no but I could see if you were picky wanting to have a guitar in a opening tuning intonated for that tuning just as most guitars are intonated for standard.

[coldbrightsunlight]

Yeah action won't be a problem, and only tuning down to D intonation should be good enough for rock and roll. I use 12s or 13s and switch between D standard and E standard pretty often, no problems.