Is "really small" actually a selling point for pedals?
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Is "really small" actually a selling point for pedals?
I know it isnt for a good ol' fashion penis (people go crazy for that monster dong), but is being really small a reason to buy a pedal?
for example, would you sacrifice a bit of tone and functionality for a pedalboard friendly size? i think Mooer was a good example, like some of those sucked balls but everyone still bought them cause they were cheap and small. was it the cost that was tempting or the size?
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for example, would you sacrifice a bit of tone and functionality for a pedalboard friendly size? i think Mooer was a good example, like some of those sucked balls but everyone still bought them cause they were cheap and small. was it the cost that was tempting or the size?
discuss?
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Re: Is "really small" actually a selling point for pedals?
I hate them. The jack placement means you don't save that much space, they are unstable when velcroed to a board and you lose knobs (unless using those wee alpha 9mm, but still, no room for anythingore than just the pot). Not to mention less space for cool artwork.
I don't get it.
I don't get it.
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Re: Is "really small" actually a selling point for pedals?
I think size is mainly a selling point for people who like to use a lot of pedals, or for people that have an almost full board and then think "oh wait, I need a (insert effect here)".
But as you say about the Mooer pedals, there's no point going for a small pedal if it's utterly crap. The idea of Mooer is alright, it's simply the execution. Everything gained by having a smaller footprint is lost if the pedal's just going to be flipped due to lack of quality.
Money comes into it too I suppose, some people will think why buy the original pedal, when I can get a copy that's smaller, and costs half the price? A lot of the mini-effects seem to be targeted at the guitarist with a small budget.
As mini pedals go, the only one I'd considering having on my board is a TC Electronic Polytune Mini. Otherwise, not interested.
But as you say about the Mooer pedals, there's no point going for a small pedal if it's utterly crap. The idea of Mooer is alright, it's simply the execution. Everything gained by having a smaller footprint is lost if the pedal's just going to be flipped due to lack of quality.
Money comes into it too I suppose, some people will think why buy the original pedal, when I can get a copy that's smaller, and costs half the price? A lot of the mini-effects seem to be targeted at the guitarist with a small budget.
As mini pedals go, the only one I'd considering having on my board is a TC Electronic Polytune Mini. Otherwise, not interested.
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Re: Is "really small" actually a selling point for pedals?
^this. also tinier pots mean harder to adjust.goroth wrote:I hate them. The jack placement means you don't save that much space, they are unstable when velcroed to a board and you lose knobs (unless using those wee alpha 9mm, but still, no room for anythingore than just the pot). Not to mention less space for cool artwork.
I don't get it.
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Re: Is "really small" actually a selling point for pedals?
I'm not a fan, just a bit unstable to step on though I do own 2 of those mooer pedals, a black secret and a triangle buff. They are ok. That said that dude Pickdropper on this forum makes some tasty little offerings. Would like a few of them. 
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Re: Is "really small" actually a selling point for pedals?
Yeah, I don't understand the small thing, either.
I don't like to use anything smaller than a 125B(4.77x2.6).
I don't like to use anything smaller than a 125B(4.77x2.6).
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Re: Is "really small" actually a selling point for pedals?
I had some mini-pedals a year ago, but flipped them all. Hated the feeling of compromise. If I had the room, all my pedals would be large units with loads of knobs and switches.
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Re: Is "really small" actually a selling point for pedals?
I love micro pedals if they sound decent. Small and light are selling points for me. Not everything fits the bill due to the small knob issue for some effects (big knobs are easier to tweak, and complex pedals require a lot of knobs) but for certain simple, always-on pedals (delay, reverb, distortion) they are great IMO.
I screw most of my pedals into my board using the bicycle chain style double-washers. Velcro instability is not an issue.
I bought a bunch of micro pedals at the early low introductory price. I refuse to pay $70 or $80 for a knockoff. I've kept the Reecho, Pitchbox, Pure Boost, and Eno rat clone.
If I can replace my DE7 and Digidelay with Reecho's, that means more room for other, more-freaky effects.
The stomp switch is too close to the knobs for effects that get turned on/off a lot (but that's true of some bigger pedals too)
I screw most of my pedals into my board using the bicycle chain style double-washers. Velcro instability is not an issue.
I bought a bunch of micro pedals at the early low introductory price. I refuse to pay $70 or $80 for a knockoff. I've kept the Reecho, Pitchbox, Pure Boost, and Eno rat clone.
If I can replace my DE7 and Digidelay with Reecho's, that means more room for other, more-freaky effects.
The stomp switch is too close to the knobs for effects that get turned on/off a lot (but that's true of some bigger pedals too)
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Re: Is "really small" actually a selling point for pedals?
It's not a selling point to me, but it obviously hits the spot for some people 'cause they're cranking that stuff out!
In general I think an MXR box is about the smallest I can use. I will say that pedals that are too 'high' bum me out though.
In general I think an MXR box is about the smallest I can use. I will say that pedals that are too 'high' bum me out though.
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Re: Is "really small" actually a selling point for pedals?
I'd potentially rock some of those mini Malekko pedals if they were okay. But I'm not too into a Mooer stuff.
I dunno, if it's good and functional I'm not jazzed on the size.... However I don't own any small pedals so I'm not one to judge.....
I dunno, if it's good and functional I'm not jazzed on the size.... However I don't own any small pedals so I'm not one to judge.....
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Re: Is "really small" actually a selling point for pedals?
If it means sacrifising in terms of tone or tweakability, I'll pass. Also, if the little thing flips over or whatever when you put your foot on it, or if the inputs jacks annoy the shit out of me...Pass.
Having said that...I keep adding pedals to a not-so-huge board, so real estate is an issue for me. And I'm not a big modulation user, so right now a Malekko omnicron phaser makes a lot of sense to me. I don't need a phaser with a zillion of controls, and I don't want to spend too much cash on an effect I'll only use now and then, and only for 'normal' phasing effects.
It's not a rule for me or anything, but I usually also try to stick to mxr sized pedals, they generally give me enough controls as well as stability, without taking up too much space on my crammed board.
Having said that...I keep adding pedals to a not-so-huge board, so real estate is an issue for me. And I'm not a big modulation user, so right now a Malekko omnicron phaser makes a lot of sense to me. I don't need a phaser with a zillion of controls, and I don't want to spend too much cash on an effect I'll only use now and then, and only for 'normal' phasing effects.
It's not a rule for me or anything, but I usually also try to stick to mxr sized pedals, they generally give me enough controls as well as stability, without taking up too much space on my crammed board.
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Re: Is "really small" actually a selling point for pedals?
My smallest pedals are Guyatone micros, and the flange and the chorus do well up against a lot of stuff. But they're probably enormous next to a 1590A.
I'm doing pedals on the rug in my practice room rather than a pedalboard, so space technically is not a constraint. At that same time, I've got a fair amount of big and huge stuff around (Delaylab, Damage Control tube overdrive, Headrush, Magic Stomp, Adrenalinn) so it's really easy to take up a lot of territory without a ridiculous number of pedals. With a few of those guys I have a bigger footprint than my ZT Lunchbox. So I don't need a fuzz that could fit in a 1590B spaciously to be flapping around in something huge like a 1790. But I don't need a ship-in-a-bottle build into the tightest box possible, either.
I'm doing pedals on the rug in my practice room rather than a pedalboard, so space technically is not a constraint. At that same time, I've got a fair amount of big and huge stuff around (Delaylab, Damage Control tube overdrive, Headrush, Magic Stomp, Adrenalinn) so it's really easy to take up a lot of territory without a ridiculous number of pedals. With a few of those guys I have a bigger footprint than my ZT Lunchbox. So I don't need a fuzz that could fit in a 1590B spaciously to be flapping around in something huge like a 1790. But I don't need a ship-in-a-bottle build into the tightest box possible, either.
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Re: Is "really small" actually a selling point for pedals?
These should help with the jack placement issue.
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Re: Is "really small" actually a selling point for pedals?
I detest micropedals, my giant hobbit foot generally disagrees with them. 
