Flanger or Phaser for shoegaze subtle wooshy sound?

[bigchiefbc]

If you want subtle phaser, you could always try a 2-stage. The Whetstone has a 2-stage mode that sounds awesome for a more subtle swoosh that doesn't sound like a jetliner.

[terminator]

Small stone or old Ross phaser is my vote.
I can't handle flange or chorus. They always sound cheesy to me.

[zRobertez]

I think I like flangers better but I usually think of flanger as flanger and chorus (with extras of course) and phaser as phaser and filter (with extras of course). Of course they can't fully replace the other types of modulation but they get close enough for me.

Also, peeps be saying 4+ knobbed flanger. I think it's the same deal with phaser. So much more when you have a couple more parameters

[Tubepig]

I have been writing a lot of 'shoegaze' material recently and I couldn't do it without either. For that 'Cocteau Twins' chorus sound I use the EH Deluxe Electric Mistress Flanger, and to reproduce the phase tones of the band 'Lush' one just needs a Boss Phaser. I felt the MXR Phase90 didn't produce the sounds I was looking for in this genre.

As you are aware, Shoegaze relies more on effects than technique, so an arsenal of delays, tremolos, along with reverb, flanger and wah and fuzz are essential IMO.

[rfurtkamp]

And in the "should have" if you want the old stuff, and have $50 burning a hole in your pocket.

Midiverb 2. Patch 29 or 48/49. Done.

[Fuzz_Pi]

I'm really curious about the Mr. Black tunnelworm, TZF is the only flange that I don't find cheesy as hell.

Anyone here have or has used one?

[Gigahearts_FX]

I have been writing a lot of 'shoegaze' material recently and I couldn't do it without either. For that 'Cocteau Twins' chorus sound I use the EH Deluxe Electric Mistress Flanger, and to reproduce the phase tones of the band 'Lush' one just needs a Boss Phaser. I felt the MXR Phase90 didn't produce the sounds I was looking for in this genre.

As you are aware, Shoegaze relies more on effects than technique, so an arsenal of delays, tremolos, along with reverb, flanger and wah and fuzz are essential IMO.

thats a nice board, bro


I am biased but my fave phaser is the Lovetone Doppelganger
can do all sorts of phaser tones, vibe tone, subtle, in your face, fast, verrrry slow

[GlitteryChunks]

Phaser is quite okay because not only is it an effect but you can set it on 'stun' or 'kill'.

Hence, flanger.

Nah, he didn't.

[D.o.S.]

What is "subtle?"

[GardenoftheDead]

What is "subtle?"

J Masics: "Yeah, I wasn’t into subtlety very much (laughs). I want you to know something is happening when you turn the pedal on, rather than just a subtle tone shift.

[astrangerinthealps]

I like the Ibanez FL-9. Very warm sounding. Can usually be found fairly cheap too.

[Gone Fission]

Subtle is the detune setting on my PS-5. Not so subtle is the $10 Starcaster Chorus pedal, which because of a mild circuit change doesn't go as deep as the CE-5 it copies, but still does a pleasant shimmery chorus sound. A bit less subtle: the resonance 1 setting on the Guyatone FL-3, which just about lets you do flange where you would have used chorus. Still haven't fully plumbed the Zoom MultiStomp sounds, but there's some promising sounds in there.

Oh, and I need to get cracking on my Doppelganger builds.

[Pete]

Can anyone suggest a flanger pedal that could get this "Metal Flanger" tone?

http://line6.com/spideriv/sounds15.html

I have the Ibanez Paul Gilbert Airplane flanger and I really dig it, but I can't seem to get that (^) sound out if it, which I really want. I feel like other than the takeoff mode, and siren sounds, a lot of the settings seem to be kind of subtle. I have it last in a chain of 5 pedals. Maybe I should try moving it around?

[rfurtkamp]

Pretty much any of the basic flangers out there - Boss, the Line6, Digitech, whatever, will get you there.

Put flange after gain, profit. Perfect workd, set blend so that a bit of bite from the original guitar/gain shows up.

[frigid midget]

yeah, that's kinda why I used to have a hard time finding a flanger I really liked. They ALL had that metallic swooosh thing going on, really over-the-tip and jet plan-y. Boss, ehx, mxr, ibanez, dod, you name it...