Less is more: Yngwie, art, shred, drone, Orwell, gear...?

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D.o.S. wrote:(and I'd rather listen to Merzbow than the original Earth "band" 3,665,500 days a week)

Very, very true. But, that newer Earth tho....
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goroth wrote:I've noticed an alarming trend the past few days with some dedicated breaux mentioning PT-nanos, downsizing and generally owning and utilising less fuzz. In the interest of sorting this shit out before it gets out of hand, LISTEN TO YNGWIE! He knows what he's talking about.

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I've always called him "Wing-eee" and I'll be damned if that's going to change now. :snax:
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spacelordmother wrote:"Wing-eee"
ING-VAAA...

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friendship wrote:I figure technical prowess show-offery is just another form of expression, no less or more valid than any other. We all have strengths and weaknesses. Maybe Yngwie and his ilk are not good at songwriting, but they're good at guitar playing, so they plays to their strengths. You kind of have to take any artistic expression on its own terms, although of course you don't have to listen to it.


I dare to disagree. When it comes to art it's completely ok to dislike something just because you dislike it. Expression is no value of its own. I express on the toilet too. Nothing is great by default just because someone made it and he meant it. Art is one of the few things humanity creates that are allowed to surpass the boundaries of reason and economics. Thinking that something is crap just because is the truest form of validation this concept can get. Besides we always do it, all the time. Why not admit to it?
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phantasmagorovich wrote:
friendship wrote:I figure technical prowess show-offery is just another form of expression, no less or more valid than any other. We all have strengths and weaknesses. Maybe Yngwie and his ilk are not good at songwriting, but they're good at guitar playing, so they plays to their strengths. You kind of have to take any artistic expression on its own terms, although of course you don't have to listen to it.


I dare to disagree. When it comes to art it's completely ok to dislike something just because you dislike it. Expression is no value of its own. I express on the toilet too. Nothing is great by default just because someone made it and he meant it. Art is one of the few things humanity creates that are allowed to surpass the boundaries of reason and economics. Thinking that something is crap just because is the truest form of validation this concept can get. Besides we always do it, all the time. Why not admit to it?
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theavondon wrote:
phantasmagorovich wrote:
friendship wrote:I figure technical prowess show-offery is just another form of expression, no less or more valid than any other. We all have strengths and weaknesses. Maybe Yngwie and his ilk are not good at songwriting, but they're good at guitar playing, so they plays to their strengths. You kind of have to take any artistic expression on its own terms, although of course you don't have to listen to it.


I dare to disagree. When it comes to art it's completely ok to dislike something just because you dislike it. Expression is no value of its own. I express on the toilet too. Nothing is great by default just because someone made it and he meant it. Art is one of the few things humanity creates that are allowed to surpass the boundaries of reason and economics. Thinking that something is crap just because is the truest form of validation this concept can get. Besides we always do it, all the time. Why not admit to it?
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That's a good post. Though I still like to know why people like or dislike the thing they are commenting on.
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sonidero wrote:
DarkAxel wrote:I'd argue that Earth 2 or Sunn O))) in general aren't about really about music at all... not as we get music i mean
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UM I love Sunn and Earth :poke: all i'm saying it it's not about the music, it's more about the sound
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sonidero wrote:
spacelordmother wrote:"Wing-eee"
ING-VAAA...

Better Recognize... Sounds better and makes everything that's Yngwie sound stupider...
Pretty close bro! The y sound is made by making an "ee" sound but moving your lips forward to an "oo" position. That's close enough anyway. Then there's just a nasal, like ng is pronounced in "ing". Ve is pronounced with a short e like in "pen". So the 2nd syllable is like "veh". We spell it Yngve. It's an old name, and Yngwie is a hopeless attempt to anglicise Yngve...
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It seems like yngwie would be a germanicization, wie in english is wee or why. Sometimes it seems like people are just making this stuff up...
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leaves turn wrote:That's a good post. Though I still like to know why people like or dislike the thing they are commenting on.
I tried to elaborate "why" in previous posts, but it isn't always so easy to pinpoint what you don't like about something.
I wont dismiss *it* as mindless or talentless, even "crap" like I would most autotuned, grid-snapped pop music.
There's obviously a lot of practice and effort that goes into being able to play like Yngwie.

But it just sounds (and looks) exceptionally dated and corny, IMO. It's become a caricature.
I'll even use the word grating...and for me to say that, says something, as I'm a big noise rock repper (nod to your Unwound user name :thumb:) & someone who listens to most of Richard D James' discog.

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phantasmagorovich wrote:When it comes to art it's completely ok to dislike something just because you dislike it.
This. So this. That's the thing about being deeply into music or movies or books of visual art. Especially if it is something of particular esthetic interest to you, you are totally allowed to not like it or even hate it. I'm pretty open genre and style wise, but that doesn't mean I'll find things to be crap in any of those genres and styles.
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phantasmagorovich wrote:
friendship wrote:I figure technical prowess show-offery is just another form of expression, no less or more valid than any other. We all have strengths and weaknesses. Maybe Yngwie and his ilk are not good at songwriting, but they're good at guitar playing, so they plays to their strengths. You kind of have to take any artistic expression on its own terms, although of course you don't have to listen to it.


I dare to disagree. When it comes to art it's completely ok to dislike something just because you dislike it. Expression is no value of its own. I express on the toilet too. Nothing is great by default just because someone made it and he meant it. Art is one of the few things humanity creates that are allowed to surpass the boundaries of reason and economics. Thinking that something is crap just because is the truest form of validation this concept can get. Besides we always do it, all the time. Why not admit to it?
If you read a little closer, that's exactly what I'm saying. :)
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